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What is gender identity, and what makes it different from gender expression or sex?
What is gender identity, and what makes it different from gender expression or sex?

I recently saw a post on this subreddit from around a day ago about whether a person can know if they are born in the wrong body, and it was enough to prompt me to ask a related question.

I’m a bit familiar with analytic metaphysical theories of gender (primarily in Sally Haslanger‘s work) through a class I took back when I was an undergrad where we covered the metaphysics of race, which has a bit of overlap with gender, using some of same arguments for race as for gender (at least with Haslanger). I also am aware of some secondary research like Judith Butler’s ideas of gender as performance or that sex too is socially constructed although I have never read their work. Either way, I’m not sure if any of them have covered the following concern:

As I understand it, a massive discovery of the second-wave feminist movement was that gender roles were bunk and more broadly one’s (gender) expression did not have to correspond to one’s gender identity or sex, which were still tightly coupled under a gender essentialist framework (and is why many second-wave feminists were or are sometimes TERF’s). This discovery gave a lot of steam to the gay liberation movement as a lot of gay men were free to be more femme-presenting (like twinks and femboys) and a lot of lesbian women were free to be more masc-presenting (like butch lesbians). (Obviously, there is still a ton of political repression. By “free,” I mean more in the sense of being comfortable within a community rather than being free from violence or persecution.) After this, the gay and trans liberation movement came into the limelight (particularly with Stonewall), and the experiences of trans people made it clear that one’s gender identity does not have to correspond to one’s sex either. Many trans people try to bring their gender expression and sex into alignment with this identity (through first socially and then sexually transitioning, respectively). Notably though, one can be trans without feeling gender dysphoria. All that is required is that one’s gender identity does not correspond to one’s sex, and neither does one’s gender identity have to correspond to expression. Someone can be a woman without being female or femme-presenting, and they may have no desire to transition (even though, often in these cases, there would still be gender euphoria associated with transitioning).

In short, the reason I bring all this is up is that my main concern following all of this is that if gender identity does not have to correspond to sex nor gender expression, then it isn’t clear to me that it has any meaning. It seems to me that gender terms like “man” or “woman” may be an empty signifier without any content, and this would lend credence to an anti-realist view of gender identity (even if gender expression is socially constructed). Gender identity is seen as this private feeling in the mind, but I don’t see what this private feeling could convey since it doesn’t have to lead to a desire towards an alteration or change in either gender expression or sex (although often it does). These latter two things can vary independently, and gender identity then would be akin to Wittgenstein’s beetle in a box. I know there is some science on brain waves in trans vs cis people that show how cis and trans men have the same brain waves and vice versa for cis and trans women. Non-binary people have brain waves between men and women. (There is also some studies on gray and white matter in the brain, but these are outdated as far as I’m aware.) In this sense, gender identity could be seen as a kind of “mental sex” (as per a psychological realism of gender). But it doesn’t make sense to me why this would then lead to a desire to change one’s sex or gender expression (and sometimes not at all as per my example). They are different and yet seemingly connected in some cases.

I was just wondering if this is a good argument for an anti-realist view or who else in the literature has made arguments like mine, against mine, or raised similar concerns.


Am I allowed to live if I’m not being “productive”?
Am I allowed to live if I’m not being “productive”?

Long story short, I lost my dad at 14, and inherited an enough money to allow me and my mom to live comfortably probably for our entire lives.

I’m 25 now, and ever since I became an adult, I’ve been dealing with extreme guilt and shame, feeling like I don’t deserve the privilege of not having to deal with lack of resources, and like I don’t deserve to live my life the way I want to.

I still don’t know how I can contribute to the world besides helping people with what I can with my resources. Didn’t really have interest in many degrees and never needed a job to survive, so I’ve basically been useless ever since I became an adult.

I’m not sure how if this is a pertinent point to bring to this question, but last year I was diagnosed with ADHD, and that explained why I’ve never been able to be consistent with nothing I’ve tried in my life, like learning an instrument or something like that.

All in all, I feel useless, and like I don’t deserve to live, and like if I needed a job to have the permission to have hobbies and a social life, or else I just hide in my comfort zone.

I’ve posted similar things on other communities, but it got to the point that it became something philosophical and existential, so I’d like to read what people here have to say!

Any thoughts are appreciated!


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I am looking for Philosophy that is beautiful to read. (Inspired by Cioran)
I am looking for Philosophy that is beautiful to read. (Inspired by Cioran)

Ahoi there,

I am not deeply invested in philosophy and via some edgy youtube rabbit holes I got around to reading E.M. Cioran these past few years and have to say:

Yes, it's dark, but maaan... the language is absolutely beautiful and stunning.

There's much I don't understand, from what I understand, there's lots of things, I disagree with, but it really is such a great read. My native tongue is german and there is some Cioran translated by Paul Celan which are my favorite texts so far.

So with that background: Do you know any philosophers with a similar essayistich approach? That use language as more than to convey meaning?

Any hint will be appreciated!

Cheers!