Talk:Luigi (character)

First appearance

This page states in multiple places that the arcade Mario Bros was Luigi's first appearance, but https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LCD_games_featuring_Mario#Mario_Bros. indicates that the handheld predates the arcade by 2 weeks. Luigi should therefore have his first appearance credited to the handheld, or at least include a note about the handheld's existence and rationale for exclusion as a non-major game. Bismurphy (talk) 19:51, 5 March 2026 (UTC)

Requested move 10 March 2026

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Lightoil (talk) 02:57, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

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Luigi (character) → Luigi (Mario)Luigi (Mario) – Really surprised this RM discussion hasn't happened yet. This proposed title has been mentioned multiple times on previous RM's so I figured it's worth discussing. The problem with the current title is that it implies that Luigi is from a series/franchise called Luigi, which is not true. The (character) DB is reserved for non-primary topic titular characters whose names are a topic for the series/franchise they are from, such as Rayman (character). Luigi is a Mario character, and I would argue that his list of games do not qualify as a series or sub-series (despite what the article says), and I know this has been a point of discussion here and here, so I won't be recycling those arguments here.

I realize that this may lead to discussions about whether or not Luigi is a series or not, so I think that if we want to discuss that first before deciding on this RM, we should discuss it on the Luigi "series" talk page.

Edit: Also happy Mario day. I hadn't realized I made this RM on March 10 haha. ThePoggingEditor (talk) 14:07, 10 March 2026 (UTC)

• Oppose In no way does this improve clarity. 162 etc. (talk) 16:20, 10 March 2026 (UTC)
• Support per WP:FILMCHARACTERS. Just make sure to put (Mario) in italics.  Bait30  ^{Talk 2 me pls?} 04:48, 11 March 2026 (UTC)
• Oppose "Luigi (character)" is much more clear, in my opinion. I don't think that title necessarily implies he is from a series called Luigi except to those who are particularly familiar with Wikipedia's naming policies. "Luigi (Mario)" just… feels more ambiguous to me, perhaps because it doesn't specify it's referring a character. Instead of a character, it sounds like it's referring to just the concept of something called Luigi from Mario. (Whether "Luigi" constitutes its own series/subseries is a matter of contention, so even if it's resolved how Wikipedia will handle it on that talk page, it may not be apparent to readers.)
  At the same time, "Luigi (character)" does feel a bit odd to me too, as while he's probably the best-known character with just that name, being the primary topic not just of a name, but of a disambiguated name makes me think it's not an adequate enough term. It doesn't seem like WP:PDAB was brought up in the discussion that moved this page to its current name, and I'm not sure it meets that threshold. My reasons for that are: since Luigi is an actual given name, it will be pretty common for characters. A sizable amount of people are still unfamiliar with video games to the point they don't know Luigi (speaking from experience), so with the vast amount of other Luigis there could be, I don't think he'd be the apparent subject of "Luigi (character)".
  So with that said: this might be a bit unorthodox, but I would be more supportive of "Luigi (Mario character)". It avoids any of the types of ambiguity as discussed in the OP or my post, and is most clear and to the point. I would still support the current name being a redirect to this page, as opposed to the Luigi disambiguation, though. Chubby Bub (talk) 11:38, 11 March 2026 (UTC)

  I'm down for that suggestion. It's certainly a valid use for WP:IGNORE-ing db rules, at least while Luigi being a series or not is under contention. ThePoggingEditor (talk) 13:04, 11 March 2026 (UTC)

  Note that this is the only character named Luigi who has his own Wikipedia article. That's not a strong WP:PDAB argument. 162 etc. (talk) 20:59, 11 March 2026 (UTC)

  @162 etc. The problem is that (character) on its own is used exclusively for when the series is named after the character, and it's arguably false that Luigi as a series/franchise exists (or at least heavily contested). At the very least, the VG WP guidelines state to use (character) when the subject is a character and not primary topic. So far I haven't been able to find a counterexample of that. ThePoggingEditor (talk) 21:22, 11 March 2026 (UTC)

  > "The problem is that (character) on its own is used exclusively for when the series is named after the character"

  While we should strive to follow guidelines such as WP:NCVG when possible, exceptions do occur, and this is one of them. 162 etc. (talk) 22:08, 11 March 2026 (UTC)

  @162 etc. I see your point, but Luigi isn't as well known as Mario and so Luigi (character) is going to be more ambiguous to a non-gamer. We as gamers associate the very real Italian name Luigi with Mario like how most people (gamers and non-gamers alike) associate the very real Italian name Mario with the Mario franchise. However, I think there are enough people who don't associate the name Luigi with Mario to necessitate my or the other guy's proposed db. ThePoggingEditor (talk) 22:18, 11 March 2026 (UTC)

  Disambiguation tags are used to disambiguate, not to provide context. Luigi (Mario character) is therefore unnecessary disambiguation, since there are no other articles on Wikipedia about a character named Luigi. 162 etc. (talk) 22:38, 11 March 2026 (UTC)

  Well technically Luigi (Cars) and Luigi (Coronation Street) are redirects that target their respective "List of xxx characters" articles, but "(character)" is still an unnecessary disambiguator per WP:FILMCHARACTERS.  Bait30  ^{Talk 2 me pls?} 00:06, 12 March 2026 (UTC)

  @Bait30 Unnecessary or inadequate? My point has been that (character) is inadequate as oppose to unnecessary for this article. ThePoggingEditor (talk) 00:21, 12 March 2026 (UTC)

  I already supported lol  Bait30  ^{Talk 2 me pls?} 01:27, 12 March 2026 (UTC)

  @Bait30 sorry, just got too in the weeds about word choice ThePoggingEditor (talk) 04:12, 12 March 2026 (UTC)

  @Bait30 sorry, just got too in the weeds about word choice ThePoggingEditor (talk) 04:27, 12 March 2026 (UTC)

• Oppose. The parenthetical disambiguator is usually a set to which the article subject belongs. The proposed title implies that Luigi is a type of Mario. I would be fine with a title like Luigi (Mario character), but I'm not sure that's really necessary. Rreagan007 (talk) 17:53, 13 March 2026 (UTC)

  Not true for characters. See WP:NCVGDAB and WP:FILMCHARACTERS. You use the name of the work or franchise as the disambiguator, unless the character is the titular character, then you can just say "(character)".  Bait30  ^{Talk 2 me pls?} 18:29, 13 March 2026 (UTC)

  @Rreagan007 By that logic, we'd have to change articles like Rosalina (Mario) to Rosalina (Mario character). Which I would have no problem with, it's just that maybe there's a larger discussion that can be had about what to do when the disambiguator is a franchise/series that is a name of a character. But also, Mario as a disambiguator already shows it's referencing some property named Mario. ThePoggingEditor (talk) 21:07, 13 March 2026 (UTC)

• Oppose The new name makes it worse. Guz13 (talk) 01:24, 18 March 2026 (UTC)

  Could you elaborate? I presume it's about putting two first names next to each other and the unintentional but unfortunate reference to that awful live action Mario movie, but I don't want to make assumption. ThePoggingEditor (talk) 04:25, 18 March 2026 (UTC)

• Note I'm not strongly opinionated either way, but having seen this rehashed again and again (and again), I wanted to throw my hat in - I think the disambiguator (Mario character) is a good choice for precision's sake and a broad RM including all similar titles may be a good idea one day, if anybody ever has the patience for it, as these seem to keep popping up from time to time. ASUKITE 18:39, 18 March 2026 (UTC)

  I've been thinking about this and I actually think (Super Mario) might be a better db for not just this article, but for Rosalina (Mario) and Toad (Mario). Yes, while they are Mario franchise characters, they did first appear specifically in the mainline Super Mario series. On that same token, I'd support moving Cow (Mario) to Cow (Mario Kart). ThePoggingEditor (talk) 18:56, 18 March 2026 (UTC)

No opinion on this RM, but I believe the status quo for this article is similar to that of Kirby (character). 1isall (talk | contribs) 23:41, 18 March 2026 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Page name

Honestly, the fact that this page isn't just "Luigi" is almost nonsensical. Theres only one other Luigi that has ever been relevant, and when you go to the page Luigi, he doesn't even show up at the top, only the name and the character. I really see no purpose of this disambiguation Spongebuddymaniac (talk) 16:01, 23 April 2026 (UTC)

Proposals of changing Luigi to a redirect are best raised at Talk:Luigi, where previous proposals were discussed. I can see how it might be confusing due to how Luigi Mangione is commonly referred to simply by first name in informal US politics discussions, although admittedly not in RS. Thiagovscoelho (talk) 19:29, 26 June 2026 (UTC)

Category:Internet meme characters

Please add this category. He has been an Internet meme character for years. ~2026-33472-97 (talk) 16:11, 15 June 2026 (UTC)