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January–February 2026 NPP backlog drive – Points award
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Guild of Copy Editors – April 2026 Newsletter
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@EarthDude I am extremely sorry,I was thus fixing the broken link and quotation of the sentence which is recently added by an user in James Mill article and these same statement are also added in The History of British India and Anti-Indian sentimentI wasn't aware that the reference are unsourced Myuoh kaka roi (talk) 05:44, 18 April 2026 (UTC)
- Aside from the source issue, that specific content seems too minor and WP:UNDUE for inclusion in these articles. Something along the lines of it has already been given in the articles elsewhere, so the statement should be removed. It is quite redundant. — EarthDude (Talk) 08:33, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
- Agreed with your statement but the information has been readded by another user who also did it in The History of British India article Myuoh kaka roi (talk) 11:21, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
- I have reverted their edits. Per WP:ONUS, once content is disputed, the burden to gain consensus falls on the editor who seeks to include such disputed content. — EarthDude (Talk) 20:20, 23 April 2026 (UTC)
- good now there has been a discussion on this content in Talk:James Mill by the user who added it you can share your opinion on it Myuoh kaka roi (talk) 14:20, 28 April 2026 (UTC)
- Your edits got reverted again by the same user Myuoh kaka roi (talk) 04:18, 1 May 2026 (UTC)
- I have reverted them and there is currently an ongoing discussion regarding this at Talk:The History of British India#Refutation of Mill's claims, in which you are free to participate. — EarthDude (Talk) 10:16, 3 May 2026 (UTC)
- I have reverted their edits. Per WP:ONUS, once content is disputed, the burden to gain consensus falls on the editor who seeks to include such disputed content. — EarthDude (Talk) 20:20, 23 April 2026 (UTC)
- Agreed with your statement but the information has been readded by another user who also did it in The History of British India article Myuoh kaka roi (talk) 11:21, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
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About the zee news Rfc
[edit]hey dude can we depreciate already i think theres a clear case being made so like whats the next step Stanjik (talk) 16:11, 25 April 2026 (UTC)
- also like this is unrelated but im asking u this cuz you seem like an experienced wikipedian
- I followed the dhurandhar 2 thing for a bit after a while they just voted like whats the deal with that when Rfc takes place they say its about merit Stanjik (talk) 16:19, 25 April 2026 (UTC)
- Regarding the Zee News RfC, I personally cannot close it, since I was the one who opened it. An uninvolved editor will close it after the usual 30 day timeframe. As for the Dhurandhar 2 dispute, RfCs are based on editor arguments and not votes, though many editors do confuse this. Anyhow, basic votes are not taken into consideration when an RfC is closed and RfCs can also have the minority position be deemed the consensus, if the arguments given by those editors is strong enough. — EarthDude (Talk) 20:55, 27 April 2026 (UTC)
- Yeah no i get that like at the end it was like 21 to 31 votes in favor something at the end
- Also thanks for creating rfc on zee news it should have been depreciated years ago why did we take this long anyone with a brain knows that thing is pretty much anti wiki Stanjik (talk) 09:05, 28 April 2026 (UTC)
- The reason for there having been no prior such discussion on Zee News is because of Wikipedia's systemic bias. The issue is that most Wikipedia editors are from North America and Europe, and editors mostly only edit topics they are familiar with. Only a minority of Wikipedia editors are from India and, as such, most editors may have genuinely never heard of Zee News before. If you look at other sources for which the community has developed a consensus at WP:RSPS, you'd see that most sources are from the West. The issue is deeper than just sourcing; there is a greater quantity and quality of Western content relative to content from the global south, including India. Editors and content related to women too are underrepresented. One of my goals as an editor is to tackle this systemic bias. — EarthDude (Talk) 09:42, 28 April 2026 (UTC)
- yeah i see that now i was just suprised because this is like a really well know news outlet and its pretty blatant yk its not at all hidden its a garbage source hope we weed out more garbage soon in wiki Stanjik (talk) 09:57, 28 April 2026 (UTC)
- The reason for there having been no prior such discussion on Zee News is because of Wikipedia's systemic bias. The issue is that most Wikipedia editors are from North America and Europe, and editors mostly only edit topics they are familiar with. Only a minority of Wikipedia editors are from India and, as such, most editors may have genuinely never heard of Zee News before. If you look at other sources for which the community has developed a consensus at WP:RSPS, you'd see that most sources are from the West. The issue is deeper than just sourcing; there is a greater quantity and quality of Western content relative to content from the global south, including India. Editors and content related to women too are underrepresented. One of my goals as an editor is to tackle this systemic bias. — EarthDude (Talk) 09:42, 28 April 2026 (UTC)
- . Ultimately, with 19 "Yes" or "Support" votes and 31 "No" or "Oppose" votes, this is what i meant like what was the voting about (dhurandhar 2) Stanjik (talk) 09:07, 28 April 2026 (UTC)
- Ah, I see. Do you mean to ask what an RfC is, and how that whole process worked out in the Dhurandhar 2 article> — EarthDude (Talk) 09:22, 28 April 2026 (UTC)
- no no i mean i get how RfC works i know it works on merit but in the end they went with majority votes in the end Stanjik (talk) 09:24, 28 April 2026 (UTC)
- Ah, I see. Do you mean to ask what an RfC is, and how that whole process worked out in the Dhurandhar 2 article> — EarthDude (Talk) 09:22, 28 April 2026 (UTC)
- Regarding the Zee News RfC, I personally cannot close it, since I was the one who opened it. An uninvolved editor will close it after the usual 30 day timeframe. As for the Dhurandhar 2 dispute, RfCs are based on editor arguments and not votes, though many editors do confuse this. Anyhow, basic votes are not taken into consideration when an RfC is closed and RfCs can also have the minority position be deemed the consensus, if the arguments given by those editors is strong enough. — EarthDude (Talk) 20:55, 27 April 2026 (UTC)
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[edit]Hi, it is regarding this portal. I've come across a few articles using it as a source. Do we have consensus regarding its usage ay WP:RSN? Skimming through, I find it to be 'less reliable'. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 14:52, 8 May 2026 (UTC)
- Looking through discussions at WP:RSN, I don't see any solid consensus, largely because government sites from different countries differ so much. However, I wouldn't rely on government sites in general because they don't have any fact-checking or editorial oversight while having an incentive to promote their own actions and ruling ideologies. Indian government websites specifically, especially in recent years, have become pretty overtly supportive of the ruling party and their beliefs, but this is also the case with many other countries such as the United States. — EarthDude (Talk) 07:49, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
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Your nomination of Gopal Mukund Huddar is on hold
[edit]Great work on the article, there's just a couple of minor things to address. You can access the review here. Thanks. Joko2468 (talk) 15:30, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot for picking this up! — EarthDude (Talk) 16:23, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
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New Page Patrol Newsletter - May 2026
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Backlog update
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Andrea Coscelli
[edit]Hi EarthDude, I see that you're a member of Wikipedia:WikiProject_Capitalism, so I hope you'll be interested in taking a look at the edits I proposed to Andrea Coscelli's page here: Talk:Andrea_Coscelli#Additional_information. Andrea is an economist and businessman, and he is the former executive director of the Competition and Markets Authority. Thanks for your attention, DayLily89 (talk) 13:50, 18 May 2026 (UTC)
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Recently a user is added LLM generate text as a source in rss article and doing pov pushing by ensuring that rss had did nothing wrong that in extended confirmed protected page where the person is clearly misusing his privelage as extended confirmed user for pov pushing Myuoh kaka roi (talk) 14:26, 30 May 2026 (UTC)
- I've gone through the edits made and reverted them. They were a significant violation of WP:NPOV and were entirely WP:UNDUE. — EarthDude (Talk) 18:49, 30 May 2026 (UTC)
- thanks but I see that the same editor is doing npov pushing in various india related articles need to report it to administrator noticeboard Myuoh kaka roi (talk) 20:08, 30 May 2026 (UTC)
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DYK for Gopal Mukund Huddar
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On 16 June 2026, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Gopal Mukund Huddar, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Indian anti-colonial activist and anti-fascist soldier Gopal Mukund Huddar (pictured) engaged in palm reading with his fellow inmates while imprisoned in a Francoist concentration camp? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Gopal Mukund Huddar. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Gopal Mukund Huddar), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.
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Liberalism in India
[edit]May I know the reason for reverting my edits on Liberalism in India; everyone from across political spectrum agrees that some form of liberal institutions existed in India (whatever was the name of the subcontinent then). Specifically;
a. Rule of law (not perfect, caste system, war/loot/plunder/other issues like everywhere else), but it is an accepted fact that even kings were bound by dharma/doing the right thing in Manusmriti (and multiple other discourses, Sen and Thapar have also noted judicial institutions); Buddha promoted eightfold path for liberation
b. Tradition of trading, markets, private property (see Thapar p 35, 153-4 and chapter 6). This is an accepted fact (Angus Maddison's OECD Report, and others)
c. intellectual pluralism - both Jainism and Buddhism were revolts against the ritualistic Vedic/casteist people, denying the authority of Vedas (Sen wrote a book with the title reflecting that point, see page 13 where he has said;
"It is very important to avoid the twin pitfalls of (1) taking democracy to be just a gift of the Western world that India simply accepted when it became independent, and (2) assuming that there is something unique in Indian history that makes the country singularly suited to democracy. The point, rather, is that democracy is intimately connected with public discussion and interactive reasoning. Traditions of public discussion exist across the world, not just in the West. And to the extent that such a tradition can be drawn on, democracy becomes easier to institute and also to preserve.”
These are accepted facts from scholars from the left, right, and center. See Tharoor here
“Far from being a Western import, as thinkers like Amartya Sen have pointed out, the key values of modern liberalism—an emphasis on individual liberty, freedom, social justice and societal harmony—have therefore been deeply ingrained in Indian society since ancient times. Liberal values can be found in our civilisational traditions and cultural beliefs, representative ruling institutions of the past and in the articulations produced by an array of makers of modern India, with giants like Raja Ram Mohan Roy, Dadabhai Naoroji, Swami Vivekananda, MG Ranade, Gopal Krishna Gokhale, and Gurudev Tagore situating their critique of colonial rule within an essentially liberal framework.”
These are just some specifics, “liberalism” did not arrive in India with the East India Company, that is a well accepted fact; a civilizational state doesn't just wake up one day and decides to become liberal because the British said so; and I had noted the influence of British thinkers on modern liberalism in India. Everything was well researched and sourced. I would like to know your reasoning behind reverting the edits. It doesn't make sense to me, the article needed sources, verification, and reliable information; I did all of that Ar1201u1 (talk) 19:53, 23 June 2026 (UTC)