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Slavery as a cause of the Texas Revolution
[edit]Many academic sources identify the desire of Anglo Texans to preserve slavery in Texas after Mexico abolished it in 1829-30 as an important cause of secession. With Juneteenth being made a federal holiday such issues are perhaps particularly pertinent. Some examples of academic commentary on the importance of maintaining slavery to the Revolution:
"Ironically, a Revolution fought to secure slavery from Mexican interference provided far more opportunities for slave resistance than had ever existed under Mexican rule."[1]
"In 1835-1836, the simmering tensions between Anglo settlers and the Mexican government boiled over. A number of issues, not the least of which was slavery, lay behind the rift."[2]
"Texas slaveholders thus found the institution troublesome and unsettling, but, at the same time, it benefited them to the extent that they would attempt a revolution to keep it."[3]
A recent book has a thoughtful discussion of the historiography of the Texas Revolution and takes this multi-causal explanation: Adopting a wider perspective, indeed, reveals how a complex tangle of cotton, slavery, and Mexican federalism—rather than any single factor—produced the fights that eventually led to the Texas Revolution.
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From an entire article written on the subject: From the Anglo Texan perspective the constitutional changes of [1830] once again threatened liberty and interrupted economic progress, their version of which included a system of slave labor. Texans took up arms in 1835 against a regime that apparently intended to undermine their political ideals, their emerging prosperity, and their understanding of social and racial peace. Clearly the challenge to slavery contributed to the Texas decision to resist the new order in Mexico.
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There are many more relevant but this is just what I've had time to research so far. With this in mind, I've added the following sentence to the header:
Mexico had officially abolished slavery in Texas in 1830, and the desire of Anglo settlers to maintain the institution of chattel slavery in Texas was also a major cause of secession.[6][7][8]
Frankly, I think the role of slavery in the Revolution should have much greater prominence on this page, but obviously careful research is needed. Thoughts and comments welcome! Noteduck (talk) 06:15, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
- While I appreciate you trying to make slavery an important issue of the Texas Revolution, it is just not true. The problems with Texians fighting the Mexican government had lasted for many years and had more to do with corruption and taxes than anything else. There were very few slaves in Texas at the time - most Texians were poor farmers. I am a member of the Daughters of the Republic of Texas and have done extensive history on the state. You cannot make the claim that slavery was an important issue just by citing a few quotes out of some book. You must look at the bigger picture and true history. Slavery in Texas was just not that big of an issue in 1836. At all. Tammywarren (talk) 19:29, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
- Can you cite your sources that slavery was not a major issue? Because there's scientific research to back up the position that the Texas Revolution was about slavery - but what about your point? Where is your evidence? You need to cite scientific literature. Sreyes88 (talk) 00:10, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
- Revisionist history at best. 209.169.75.90 (talk) 22:52, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
- Where are your scientific research sources? 146.85.131.114 (talk) 03:39, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- Revisionist history at best. 209.169.75.90 (talk) 22:52, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
- This page is coming under attack. I just undid an edit that was very clearly politically motivated, and cited a poor quality source that also did not validate the claims of the edit, downplaying the role of slavery. ~2026-37615-1 (talk) 02:29, 18 January 2026 (UTC)
- Can you cite your sources that slavery was not a major issue? Because there's scientific research to back up the position that the Texas Revolution was about slavery - but what about your point? Where is your evidence? You need to cite scientific literature. Sreyes88 (talk) 00:10, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
References
- ^ Carrigan, William Dean (1999). "Slavery on the frontier: The peculiar institution in Central Texas". Slavery and Abolition. 20 (2): 66. doi:10.1080/01440399908575278. Retrieved 11 June 2021.
- ^ Kelley, Sean (2004). ""Mexico in His Head": Slavery and the Texas-Mexico Border, 1810-1860". Journal of Social History. 37 (3): 716. Retrieved 23 June 2021.
- ^ Campbell, Randolph B. (1991). An Empire for Slavery: The Peculiar Institution in Texas, 1821–1865. Louisiana State University Press. p. 256. ISBN 9780807117231. Retrieved 23 June 2021.
- ^ Torget, Andrew J. (2015). Seeds of Empire: Cotton, Slavery, and the Transformation of the Texas Borderlands, 1800-1850. The University of North Carolina Press. p. 140. ISBN 1469624249. Retrieved 23 June 2021.
- ^ Lack, Paul D. (1985). "Slavery and the Texas Revolution". Southwestern Historical Quarterly. 89 (2): 190. Retrieved 23 June 2021.
- ^ Carrigan, William Dean (1999). "Slavery on the frontier: The peculiar institution in Central Texas". Slavery and Abolition. 20 (2): 66. doi:10.1080/01440399908575278. Retrieved 11 June 2021.
Ironically, a Revolution fought to secure slavery from Mexican interference provided far more opportunities for slave resistance than had ever existed under Mexican rule.
- ^ Kelley, Sean (2004). ""Mexico in His Head": Slavery and the Texas-Mexico Border, 1810-1860". Journal of Social History. 37 (3): 716. Retrieved 23 June 2021.
In 1835-1836, the simmering tensions between Anglo settlers and the Mexican government boiled over. A number of issues, not the least of which was slavery, lay behind the rift.
- ^ Campbell, Randolph B. (1991). An Empire for Slavery: The Peculiar Institution in Texas, 1821–1865. Louisiana State University Press. p. 256. ISBN 9780807117231. Retrieved 23 June 2021.
Texas slaveholders thus found the institution troublesome and unsettling, but, at the same time, it benefited them to the extent that they would attempt a revolution to keep it.
Edit request
[edit]Change “Texian” tó Texan. It is the correct demonyn. 136.33.60.55 (talk) 00:43, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oh that’s me, was logged out randomly if you want tó leave a message on my talk page. Blackmamba31248 (talk) 00:46, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- The correct demonym for that period was Texian. Sam Kuru (talk) 00:52, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- I undertsand Blackmamba31248 (talk) 00:54, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- The correct demonym for that period was Texian. Sam Kuru (talk) 00:52, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
George Fisher in infobox
[edit]GazuzBaguzz, your addition of George Fisher to the infobox was removed withe the edit summary: Per MOS:INFOBOXPURPOSE - not supported by body of article
. While you maintain He was one of the first leaders of revolution, I don't see a reason for his removal
, there is nothing in the body of the article to tell the reader why he would appear in the infobox and evidence why he was a key or significant commander. Cinderella157 (talk) 03:22, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- Concur with the removal. I'm skeptical that Fisher's article lead is really all that accurate in calling them an early leader in the revolution. Ed [talk] [OMT] 07:01, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
Flags in infobox
[edit]MOS:MILFLAGS tells us when it is appropriate to use flags in the infobox. In this case, the flags are redundant because they convey no additional information over the text that tells us the entity the flag represents. Consequently, per MILFLAGS, it is not appropriate to use flags in this instance. Cinderella157 (talk) 01:09, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
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