Talk:Panipuri

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I put up an NPOV of the phrase "You have to put the entire puri into your mouth at one go and bite into it." I think that while this is the *traditional* way of eating pani puri it is not the only way. However, there was some disagreement, so I am looking for consensus before I change this to "Traditionally the entire puri is eaten in one bite." 192.11.225.118 06:50, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

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ROTFLMAO

How does "gappa" mean eating? :D It's just a nonsensical word 220.225.87.66 (talk) 01:16, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Added Pronunciation

I have added pronunciation audio file --Tito Dutta (Send me a message) 01:50, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

How can I add the pronunciation audio file in wikipedia? Dinopce (talk) 16:17, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Messy third paragraph

The third paragraph under "Variants" contained long-winded instructions for preparing certain condiments; as they were not encyclopedic in style, nor laid out in recipes, but jammed into the text, I removed them while still referring to the condiments by name. As I'm not wholly familiar with Indian cooking I may have made a few errors. .ErrorReaper (talk) 18:42, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Recipe Video

This video shows the original recipe of phuckha as it is prepared in Bengal: https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=16s2GMYbfH0 Shubhrajit Sadhukhan (talk) 10:58, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Where is this called Paani Puri?

I'm sure the answer seems obvious to some, but I think it would be helpful if someone with the knowledge could edit the list of places where variant names are used, to show also where (particularly in India) it's commonly known as Paani Puri (assuming that it is) Dybeck (talk) 03:40, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

You can literally find it anywhere in India Golgappa and it's much better than your pizza pasta hamburger or any type of these dishes and foods even a 100k-dollar pizza can't rival fuchka just saying it from my personal experience with it rn. 950CMR (talk) 18:20, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

You can easily make fuchka or Golgappa at home just see an article or video on youtube about it. 950CMR (talk) 18:21, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

In Bombay, since the 1950s I used to go to Shetty's in Nana Chowk, Tardeo and they are among the early restaurants to offer it. My point here is that Pani Puri is always two words, as you can see on their current menu. It is usually shown next to other "puris" of the same street cuisine, e.g. Bhel Puri, Sev Puri, Dahi Batata Puri. Why, then, is this article using the combined word "panipuri"? Look at other menus. Ash (talk) 08:47, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Mahabharata/Magadha Origin

Text removed from the article: According to a mythological legend connected to Mahabharata, Panipuri was introduced by Draupadi, the wife of Pandavas, when she was challenged by her mother-in-law Kunti to make a meal out of some leftover potato curry and a small amount of dough. Draupadi invented a new recipe which later won her praise and appreciation from Kunti who also blessed the dish with immortality.According to a mythological legend connected to Mahabharata, Panipuri was introduced by Draupadi, the wife of Pandavas, when she was challenged by her mother-in-law Kunti to make a meal out of some leftover potato curry and a small amount of dough. Draupadi invented a new recipe which later won her praise and appreciation from Kunti who also blessed the dish with immortality.

I have removed/readded/removed the above text. The story originated as a joke answer of Quora question in 2013 and became a widespread mythological origin story of Panipuri as per this source and this. It was a fake story. So please do not add it.-Nizil (talk) 07:03, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

Moved text: Phulki, which is considered as the precursor of Panipuri, originated in Magadha (now Bihar) in 600 BCE but the ingredients of it must have been very different because the potato and chili were brought to India in the 17th century.

I have doubts about this origin too. Phulki looks very different and I don't find any usual connection with Panipuri. I even doubt that Phulki was originated in 600 BCE. It is too early to find deep frying IMO. So I have removed this text for now. If better sources are found, it should be reinstated.-Nizil (talk) 07:43, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

References

Include Sindh in the list of Panipuri states

Golgappa or better known as Panipuri in Sindhi is being eaten in Sindh for a long time. Why was Sindh omitted from the list and instead of it a language like Urdu was added. The Vandalist gave the stupid logic that only those who speak urdu eats panipuri but the Sindhis, which is a 5000-year-old civilization can't even have a local version of the Golgappa to which they call as Panipuri. Please update the list and add Sindh to the list and stop spreading disinformation to the masses. SaifSindhi (talk) 03:56, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for finally discussing this. You have been edit warring (and making baseless personal attacks) about a list of alternative names. It is not a list of places where this dish is eaten. If a region does not use an alternative name it doesn't go on that list - because there is nothing to list. MrOllie (talk) 12:32, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 March 2023

its only beleived by 2 historians that it has roots in mughal era 'change many to some' 103.81.213.165 (talk) 10:36, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 13:53, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Confusion regarding Origin of the dish

In the History column, it is mentioned that according to many historians, the dish has origins in the Mughal era. While the next line says the dish has been in existence since 600 BCE. Both the statements are contradictory. Remove either one of them and provide credible source for the one not removed. 2405:201:4029:E8D4:7D45:197F:CB0D:D3A9 (talk) 12:18, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 July 2023

In Gujarat, it is called Pani Puri not the other term given. 137.220.68.205 (talk) 11:27, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 12:53, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 July 2023

DEV D. LIMBACHIYA (talk) 15:50, 13 July 2023 (UTC) in gujarat its called pakodi

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Thank you! NotAGenious (talk) 17:07, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

Reliable sources

I've removed unsourced material or material sourced by personal food blogs. Many "recipe" books contain speculative histories without serious academic merit. A reliable source, like a journal or textbook, is needed.

As noted, a story slipped in from a joke Quora post. DenverCoder9 (talk) 16:35, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

Health impacts

This page is full of incorrect information. Panipuri given calorie is incorrect. It also has a lot of other ingredients in the form of gram, coriander, cumin, turmeric, green chilly and tamarind which has many health benefits. Seems those editing the page have some panipuri prejudice 171.61.238.229 (talk) 18:19, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

This is also not done for other foods, and is clearly biased. The sources cited don't actually support the main points made in the section. I will delete the section; hopefully mods will either support the deletion or add tags noting the dispute and move the section down lower in the article. Ironphoenix (talk) 14:25, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

Name in Jharkhand

In Jharkhand it is called Golgappa. Not sure of Bihar but I doubt it's the same. 171.61.238.229 (talk) 18:20, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

Golgappa

Jamshedpur Golgappa is India famous for the perfect taste it has. Write something about that 171.61.238.229 (talk) 18:20, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

Sanskrit name

Never heard of this. Can you give a source for that. Don't write anything for the sake of it 171.61.238.229 (talk) 18:21, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

Italicize?

Should it be italicized per MOS:FOREIGNITALIC? https://onelook.com/?w=Panipuri&ls=a and https://onelook.com/?w=Pani+puri&ls=a seems to suggest it's not an adopted word in English yet. 104.232.119.107 (talk) 04:03, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Costco and Pani Puri as a "global food item"

"In 2024, Costco began stocking Pani Puri, elevating its status as a global food item."

The latter half of this sentence is an opinion derived from an unscientific source and should be removed. 213.95.147.7 (talk) 12:05, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Agreed. Will fix. --Macrakis (talk) 13:10, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Please discuss naming and description here, and provide sources.

This article has become unreadable because of uncited and malformatted additions. Here are some of the main issues I see as a copy editor:

1. There are no citations to reliable sources to identify the names by which this food is called, or the most commonly used spellings. I see fewer than a dozen citations in this article. That's not okay. Certainly there are many different names in different languages, but they must be cited.

2. The infobox is not the place for discussion about differences; please read MOS:INFOBOX and propose a better way to communicate reliably sourced, verifiably cited information that maintains a neutral point of view with minimal use of adjectives.

3. Food names like "pani puri" (which is a common noun, not including a person's or a place's name, and not a trademark) are not capitalised in English Wikipedia. Kindly be mindful that every time you use an initial capital for "Pani puri" (unless, of course, it is the first word in a sentence), you create work for others.

If you have questions, please ask them here (or, for technical or style questions, at the Teahouse board)). Please do not post questions or comments about this article on my user talk page, because others will not have the ability to participate in the discussion.

Thanks. Julietdeltalima (talk) 08:08, 2 August 2025 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

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Panipuri

• ... that gender norms have been suggested to influence the consumption of panipuri (pictured)?

• Source: [1]

• ALT1: ... that in China, the popularity of the Indian snack panipuri (pictured) led to a hashtag and a depiction in Genshin Impact? Source: [2]
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/History of Iloilo City
• Comment: Sorry for being a bit over the 7-day limit—I'll blame it on Christmas. I may also think of more interesting hooks as I continue to expand the article.

5x expanded by Vigilantcosmicpenguin (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 59 past nominations.

— Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 02:20, 29 December 2025 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
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Overall: Well done. Have checked some sentences, and nothing questionable or concerning for me. Thanks for your hard work. You can consider a good article if you have confidence. Saimmx (talk) 03:39, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

GA review

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Nominator: Vigilantcosmicpenguin (talk · contribs) 03:58, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Reviewer: Rollinginhisgrave (talk · contribs) 06:44, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

I'll take this one on over the next day. I'm always impressed by the level of research in your articles, so interested in what I can learn in this process. Rollinginhisgrave (talk | edits) 06:44, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for the review and the kind words! I'm delighted to see this GAN taken up within three hours of my nomination; I don't think I'll ever top that. :P — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 19:05, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

Maybe if someone actually does the review 3 hours in rather than just says they will ;) Rollinginhisgrave (talk | edits) 10:34, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

@Rollinginhisgrave: I think I've addressed everything. Thanks! — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 05:23, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

All good! Passing now, thanks for your patience with my halting review. Rollinginhisgrave (talk | edits) 05:08, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

Prose and content

• Chaat worth glossing in the lead
  • And worth introducing puri in the body if you are making comparisons with regular puri.
  • And sev
  • Done. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 05:23, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
• Not necessarily fully endorsing the essay, but interested in hearing how you see Wikipedia:WikiProject Food and drink/Original, authentic, and traditional applying to this subject given your use of "traditional" throughout.
  • I haven't come across this essay before; it raises an interesting point. I've rephrased a handful of uses of "traditional", but I think the rest of the uses are valid based on what the sources say. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 05:23, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
• Given your treatment in #Names, is the framing of panipuri as a regional name ideal/appropriate?
  • The Gulf News source explicates that panipuri is the most common name globally, so that's how I'm using it. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 05:23, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
    • This references the opening sentence: "Panipuri (also known by other regional names..." Rollinginhisgrave (talk | edits) 05:50, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
      • Rewritten as other names. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 23:12, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
• "taking multiple bites is seen as improper" this one needs better attribution I think to avoid a who tag
  • Not sure what the right way to phrase this is. The source says "purists" but that doesn't feel like an NPOV word. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 05:23, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
• "it balances spiciness with the astringency and cooling of tamarind" cooling in the source is attributed, and this is obviously only in panipuri that include tamarind, which I understand is not all?
  • Added the word "may". — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 05:23, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
• "They serve panipuri by each customer's order" this could be expressed more clearly, and "Some vendors serve panipuri directly from their hands" has some ambiguity between handing the customer panipuri and handfeeding (putting in mouth)
  • It actually is hand-feeding in some cases (see the source by Sood in The Hindu), so a clarification isn't needed. Rephrased the "to order" statement. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 05:23, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
    • Appreciate that, but it reads as either / or ambiguous which isn't what you want to convey. Rollinginhisgrave (talk | edits) 05:50, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
      • Rephrased. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 23:12, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
• The atta puris and are slightly larger ?
  • Fixed. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 23:12, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Suggestions

• Puri also a Hindi word?
  • Yes, but I don't think it's necessary to specify that as it is also used in English, and the Puri (food) article provides the information that it's a Hindi word. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 05:23, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
• I know this isn't something done very frequently, but I think it can have some utility. A map of the Indian subcontinent with the named regions in the names section would be helpful as a point of orientation when there are a lot of place names being thrown out. I think of writing Campanian cuisine#Geography.
  • I considered doing this, but I think it would be infeasible to make a map that is accurate. For example, sources mention that parts of Uttar Pradesh say golgappa, but don't specify which parts. Another option would be to use a less precise map that just colors each state, and uses multiple colors for a state that uses multiple names. If you think this would still be useful, I'll do it. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 05:23, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
    • Even a map that isn't color coded just with the mentioned names would be helpful to orient. Totally optional ofc. Rollinginhisgrave (talk | edits) 05:50, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
      • Great idea! Added a map. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 23:12, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
• MOS:COMMONALITY comes in with Hing, and I suspect other words I forget as I read.
  • Changed to "asafoetida", but I'm on the fence about whether this falls under COMMONALITY. "Asafoetida" isn't really an Indian English word; I would guess that most Indians only know the word "hing". To illustrate this point, I'll use The Telegraph as an example of Indian English: the website's search bar returns 200 results for "hing" compared to 97 for "asafoetida", which is similar to the ratio of "brinjal" to "eggplant" on the same website, and Wikipedia uses "brinjal" in India-related articles. This point is why I think "hing" is the correct choice on Indian English articles—although it's also true that "asafoetida" sees more use in academic journals, so I can see it going either way. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 05:23, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
    • Interesting, and the ngram is really surprising. Bengal gram at least can be "local chickpea". Rollinginhisgrave (talk | edits) 05:50, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
      • Glossed "Bengal gram" as "chickpeas". — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 23:12, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
• Would be helpful to hear about how many make up a typical serving.
  • I haven't found any sources that actually say. Most of them (like Carman in The Washington Post) basically just say that one can eat as much as one wants. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 05:23, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
• Making my perpetual suggestion to link in pages directly in sfn references to the Internet Archive. Allows anyone to just click in and read the page, even if they don't have an account / print-disability access.
  • Makes sense, done. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 23:12, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
• In case it wasn't obvious that I like visual aids, a table summarizing the variations would be excellent and way beyond GA.
  • I know some people like using tables in cases like this, but I would lean against it. In this case, it would be difficult to compile the information about the styles into a cohesive table, as sources focus on completely different elements—a definitive description would only really be possible for the Delhi and Kolkata styles. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 23:12, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Sources

• "In Uttar Pradesh... restaurants serve it with an assortment of pani flavours" seems this is only in a small part of Uttar Pradesh from the sources?
  • Rephrased to "many flavours of pani are used", which should be more accurate. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 05:23, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
• Using newspapers for historical claims is really outside of their field of competence. I am inclined to treat the Gulf News source as useless for historical claims, at least with its weaselly "some food historians believe" and authorship by the newspaper's social media editor. The same for an offhanded remark in The Business Standard about phuchka originating in Assam.
  • Added another citation to the Magadha claim. I can't find where this theory originates, but this theory is mentioned by enough sources that I think it's worth including, even if none of the sources individually are reliable enough, until better sources can be found. For the phuchka etymology claim, added in-text attribution, which I think is adequate in this case. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 05:23, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
    • Hmm. I don't believe in adding information merely because reliable sources are lacking and something is the best we have. Either it's good enough to include, somewhat credible and we attribute, or we omit. Kundu & Dutta is not a good enough source for its claim: it doesn't verify that this is a common theory, and it is an uncited, offhand footnote in a text on economics, not history. Such a type of claim is what "appropriate" refers to in WP:RS. I see more issues in this section; tamarind water in the source is dated to the Buddhist period, but here we refer to that as "ancient India", which I understand is at most 500 CE. I think this section needs to be gone over again before I take another look. Rollinginhisgrave (talk | edits) 03:33, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
      • @Rollinginhisgrave: I suppose you're right about that. (I assumed that the theory could be tracked down to some non-English expert source, but it's wrong of me to assume that such a source exists without being sure.) On the "ancient India" point, corrected "tamarind water" to just "tamarind". Everything else in this paragraph should be acceptable as, even though some of the statements are from less reliable sources, these sources attribute their claims to specific historians. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 04:39, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
• "Mass-produced panipuris use cheaper ingredients for pani" A broader claim than the source makes I think
  • I think this is supported by the source's statement about "scrimping" on ingredients, a word that I would interpret to mean using cheaper ingredients. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 05:23, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
    • The source supports that "many" mass-produced panipuris do this, but my comment was raising that "mass-produced panipuris use" is a more universal claim. Maybe too far into nitpicking. Rollinginhisgrave (talk | edits) 05:50, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
      • You're right; added the word "many". — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 23:12, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
• The ambiguity between "Lakshmi wrote in 2017" when the source is just published in that year and was not necessarily written then always bugs me. Regardless, the book was published in 2016.
  • Fixed—hopefully the phrasing Lakshmi wrote in her 2016 memoir will make you feel better. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 05:23, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
• "the versatile template of panipuri made it a predecessor to molecular gastronomy" I don't think that's what he's saying. I believe he's referring to spherification.
  • You may be right; rephrased to state the more clear part of what he said. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 23:12, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
• "who attributes this phenomenon to chef Sanjeev Kapoor" maybe read the source again and tell me if you still agree with how you have put this.
  • This is how I interpret the source, but it's not plainly obvious so you're right that it should be rephrased. (I think Sanghvi is intentionally being indirect here.) Rephrased as One of the chefs developing variations of the dish was Sanjeev Kapoor. Also added images of others next to Kapoor, to avoid putting undue weight on Kapoor. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 04:39, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
• "a video that showed a panipuri vendor taking a bladder break into the vessel used to mix the pani for the puris" ≠ "a vendor urinating into a jar of pani". As a suggestion, I would also add a footnote here giving the source's suggestion for why someone would be doing this.
  • Rephrased.
• "with a particularly high proportion of Rajasthanis" the source appears to say the opposite.
  • Huh, don't know how I misread it like that. Corrected. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 04:39, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

I'll just do a very cursory spot-check since I've been reading source as I go (if it wasn't obvious):

• [10a] Y
• [20a] Y although in an iffy way
  • Noted, but this statement is more directly verified by the other source cited. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 04:39, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
• [30b] Y but an application of MOS:DATED would be welcome, since in 20 years no-one will update the figures.
  • Done. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 04:39, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
• [40] Y
• [50b] Y
• [60] Y
• [70] Y
• [80] Y

Rollinginhisgrave (talk | edits) 10:34, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Other

• Images all good. Y
• No COPYVIO / OR as I went through and checked. Some concerns for reliability in early history section. clock
• Quite detailed, perhaps too much so for some. I think it's within bounds of GA for such a major dish. No major omissions. Y
• Stable Y
• Neutral Y

Rollinginhisgrave (talk | edits) 03:33, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

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Consumption by women

From the "Consumption" section:

attributing this to its social acceptability as a frivolous snack for women

In the sentence containing this, it isn't clear whether it's the author of the source who attributes it to social acceptability, or if it's the women who made the attribution. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 18:58, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Good point, thanks. I have edited the sentence for clarity. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 18:13, 23 January 2026 (UTC)