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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that after gaining a job as a singing waiter in 1938, Frank Sinatra(pictured) boasted that he would "become so big that no one could ever touch him"?
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The rationale behind the request is: Important" Addendum by Mr. Guye: Subject is very high profile and thus this is a highly visible page. The subject is long dead, so it is also stable. Lastly, it is a Good article, so it is not like we do not want people to hear it. 06:01, 8 December 2017 (UTC).
It has been a while since this article has been reviewed, so I took a look and noticed the following:
The article is too large and too detailed. Many of the quotes and statements can be summarised more effectivel and less important details should be trimmed.
There are some uncited statements, including entire paragraphs.
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The article is too large and too detailed. Many of the quotes and statements can be summarised more effectively, and less important details should be trimmed. There are some uncited statements, including entire paragraphs. Z1720 (talk) 20:58, 2 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Disagree, it's already been trimmed down and is pretty concise, you would expect an article on somebody as big as Sinatra to be this developed, given that he had several big careers going and the amount of material which exists. Elvis too has a big article. This has been up 10 years now, pick on something else which actually needs the work. ♦ Dr. Blofeld05:09, 3 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@Dr. Blofeld: There are lots of sections in this article that could be spun out, summarised more effectively, and/or have more headings to prevent overly-long sections (which is particularly a problem on mobile). These include the following sections: "1935–1942: Hoboken Four, Harry James, and Tommy Dorsey", "1942–1945: Onset of Sinatramania and Role in World War II", "1946–1952: Columbia years and career slump", "1953–1960: Career revival and the Capitol years", "1960–1970: Reprise years", "1970–1981: "Retirement" and return", "1982–1997: Later career and final projects", "Artistry", "Television and radio career", "Personal life" (before the "Style and personality" sub-heading), "Political views and activism", and "Legacy and honors". Shortening these sections would allow the article to fulfil GA criteria 1b (MOS:LAYOUT) and 3b (WP:SS). Z1720 (talk) 05:38, 3 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
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The Kitty Kelley biography is notoriously unverified and relies on evidence given by "unnamed witnesses", aswell as all her other biographies, why are we using it as a source, or not even warning people what the source is? DorielMendez (talk) 08:13, 5 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]
for example, the biography Claims that Kitty Kelley interviewed Peter Lawford, but the alleged date of the interview was 12 days after Peter Lawford died. DorielMendez (talk) 08:16, 5 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]
There was information about Sinatra performing at a Teamsters concert in 1965, with a statement in the same section correct it to 1967. Both instances were unsourced, and the only info I could find about it online was from [1], which I don't believe is reliable. So I deleted it. Until someone can affirm its reliability and if this detail is worth including to begin with, it shall remain deleted. Ecoutez moi (talk | contribs) 02:30, 25 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]