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Alternate names
[edit]@Uriel1022, from where does "Ch'ong-ch'in" come from or derive? I don't see it attested anywhere in the article. And I fear three romanizations of the same name becomes too many for such a prominent place in the article. Remsense诉 14:46, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Remsense, they are romanizations from Western Mandarin, or the Spoken Language of Western China (see 重 ch'ong & 慶 ch'in). It's a Sichuanese dictionary, quite old (published in 1900). But if you know one thing or two about Sichuan, then you understand there is no regulation of the local language, which basically makes Western Mandarin the only standard resource to draw on. On a second thought I feel it's not appropriate to display "Ch'ong-ch'in" on the infobox, but I suggest leaving it under "Notes" to serve as an indication of a more proper pronunciation of the name according to the local language. Uriel1022 (talk) 16:30, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- Of course! I am not sure the best way to handle this generally, as you said there is an enormous amount of fluidity both phonetically and orthographically: we don't want to exclude known forms, but I would worry about myself accidentally holding up one as an academic exercise despite it not being in use on the ground (of course I know not at all whether that would be the case here, you would far better than I) Remsense诉 16:33, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
"Chongqing No.1 Middle School" listed at Redirects for discussion
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The redirect Chongqing No.1 Middle School has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 December 26 § Chongqing No.1 Middle School until a consensus is reached. Jay 💬 11:01, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
Chongqing being used in external chinese propaganda
[edit]Chongqing is being used in external Chinese propaganda, often using the municipality population number (over 32 million) to make it appear bigger than the actual population of the built up area (over 9 million), showing Liziba station (highlighting the fact that the station is inside a apartment building, with trains riding to the inside of the building) and Kuixing Building (highlighting the fact that what appears to be a small city square, is actually on the 22nd floor of the building) as a example of unqiue architecture, therefore why not include information about Chonqing being used in external chinese propaganda on this article or in wikipedia? it dosen't need to be like this text, but what i said is what is done in chinese external propaganda shwoing chongqing 109.81.89.240 (talk) 18:13, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- As was already made clear, you're being asked to provide a source that verifies each of the claims present in the addition you want to make to the article, at a minimum. Site policy (WP:BURDEN) requires you include such an inline citation when challenged. Remsense 🌈 论 18:16, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- well im trying to create a discussion about this topic, of course there will be inline citations in the article when there will be this subject on the main (non-talk page) article 109.81.89.240 (talk) 18:37, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- Just not sure what there is to discuss if you're not planning on providing any citations, given this proposal is otherwise wholly your preference. Remsense 🌈 论 18:38, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- well, what i meant is that people discussing about this subject in the talk page will put citations and talk about how it would be written in the wikipedia article 109.81.89.240 (talk) 18:51, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- You are welcome to put citations here. I am not sure who else you think is going to provide citations for the claims you are making Czarking0 (talk) 05:15, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
- ok i know these aren't like exactly what i want and a lot of these are pro-china but here is something that might help it https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202504/1331479.shtml https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/american-youtube-star-ishowspeed-woos-us-consumers-with-futuristic-china-tech https://chinamediaproject.org/2021/02/25/hiring-globally-for-chinas-voice/ https://www.ichongqing.info/2025/04/03/ishowspeeds-electrifying-city-walk-in-chongqing/ https://news.cgtn.com/news/2025-04-03/IShowSpeed-s-China-livestreams-take-global-social-media-by-storm-1CgPEA5vzJS/p.html https://www.ichongqing.info/2025/05/27/ishowspeed-explores-chongqing-china-lets-meet/ https://www.sixthtone.com/news/1017050 https://daoinsights.com/news/ishowspeed-videobombing-why-wenheyous-restaurant-boss-faces-backlash/ https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202504/16/WS67ff1e96a3104d9fd381fa23.html https://english.dotdotnews.com/a/202505/01/AP681198dfe4b0e343b0e87fd2.html https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3305240/us-influencer-ishowspeeds-view-china-makes-him-accidental-ambassador https://www.theworldofchinese.com/videos/ishowspeeds-chinese-uncle-puts-rongchang-on-the-map/ https://pop.inquirer.net/375864/ishowspeed-goes-live-in-china-meets-tony-from-lc-sign-in-viral-encounter https://www.news18.com/viral/ishowspeed-meets-chinese-donald-trump-in-chongqing-internet-cant-stop-laughing-aa-9288127.html https://www.ichongqing.info/2025/04/04/speeds-viral-collabs-fan-frenzy-in-chongqing/ https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202504/04/WS67ef1f4ea3104d9fd381d96e.html https://english.dotdotnews.com/a/202504/21/AP680608a6e4b0e343b0e77bf5.html https://www.ichongqing.info/2025/04/27/the-chongqing-uncle-chasing-speed-faces-of-chongqing/ https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202504/02/WS67ed1f93a3104d9fd381d522.html https://news.cgtn.com/news/2025-04-03/U-S-streamer-awed-by-Chongqing-s-real-life-cybercity-vibe-1Chbtxn8wjm/p.html https://www.hindustantimes.com/trending/chinese-donald-trump-shocks-ishowspeed-with-scary-accurate-impression-of-us-president-watch-101743832786395.html https://news.abplive.com/trending/more-trump-than-trump-ishowspeed-meets-chinese-donald-trump-in-chongqing-1763165 https://english.dotdotnews.com/a/202504/21/AP68060318e4b0e343b0e77b43.html there are more of these but i decided it is enough to copy and paste it 109.81.89.240 (talk) 13:29, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
- For better discussion I suggest you order these like:
- first
- second
- It is hard for other to read a mangle of links.
- Second please cross reference WP:RSP and WP:RSN and place the sources that have consensus as reliable on top.
- Assuming there are reliable sources in this list, add claims that are well supported by the reliable sources to the article with a reference like [1]
- If you have a hard time with the formatting click "Edit Source" at the top of this page and then Ctrl+F for mangle to see my comment. Czarking0 (talk) 15:40, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for adding sources. From this list I note straitstimes and SCMP as particularly good ones. There is probably something usable here. Czarking0 (talk) 15:44, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
- The straitstimes source only has a passing mention of Chongqing so I don't think it holds relevance for this article Czarking0 (talk) 15:46, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
- scmp has the same story so I think the same there too Czarking0 (talk) 23:51, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
- The straitstimes source only has a passing mention of Chongqing so I don't think it holds relevance for this article Czarking0 (talk) 15:46, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
- The Chinamediaproject's coverage of the creation of ichongqing is almost certianly relevant. Chonqing application of Telling China's stories well is worth mentioning in the article. Probably additional sources should be used to round out the picture Czarking0 (talk) 15:50, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
- For better discussion I suggest you order these like:
- ok i know these aren't like exactly what i want and a lot of these are pro-china but here is something that might help it https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202504/1331479.shtml https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/american-youtube-star-ishowspeed-woos-us-consumers-with-futuristic-china-tech https://chinamediaproject.org/2021/02/25/hiring-globally-for-chinas-voice/ https://www.ichongqing.info/2025/04/03/ishowspeeds-electrifying-city-walk-in-chongqing/ https://news.cgtn.com/news/2025-04-03/IShowSpeed-s-China-livestreams-take-global-social-media-by-storm-1CgPEA5vzJS/p.html https://www.ichongqing.info/2025/05/27/ishowspeed-explores-chongqing-china-lets-meet/ https://www.sixthtone.com/news/1017050 https://daoinsights.com/news/ishowspeed-videobombing-why-wenheyous-restaurant-boss-faces-backlash/ https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202504/16/WS67ff1e96a3104d9fd381fa23.html https://english.dotdotnews.com/a/202505/01/AP681198dfe4b0e343b0e87fd2.html https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3305240/us-influencer-ishowspeeds-view-china-makes-him-accidental-ambassador https://www.theworldofchinese.com/videos/ishowspeeds-chinese-uncle-puts-rongchang-on-the-map/ https://pop.inquirer.net/375864/ishowspeed-goes-live-in-china-meets-tony-from-lc-sign-in-viral-encounter https://www.news18.com/viral/ishowspeed-meets-chinese-donald-trump-in-chongqing-internet-cant-stop-laughing-aa-9288127.html https://www.ichongqing.info/2025/04/04/speeds-viral-collabs-fan-frenzy-in-chongqing/ https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202504/04/WS67ef1f4ea3104d9fd381d96e.html https://english.dotdotnews.com/a/202504/21/AP680608a6e4b0e343b0e77bf5.html https://www.ichongqing.info/2025/04/27/the-chongqing-uncle-chasing-speed-faces-of-chongqing/ https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202504/02/WS67ed1f93a3104d9fd381d522.html https://news.cgtn.com/news/2025-04-03/U-S-streamer-awed-by-Chongqing-s-real-life-cybercity-vibe-1Chbtxn8wjm/p.html https://www.hindustantimes.com/trending/chinese-donald-trump-shocks-ishowspeed-with-scary-accurate-impression-of-us-president-watch-101743832786395.html https://news.abplive.com/trending/more-trump-than-trump-ishowspeed-meets-chinese-donald-trump-in-chongqing-1763165 https://english.dotdotnews.com/a/202504/21/AP68060318e4b0e343b0e77b43.html there are more of these but i decided it is enough to copy and paste it 109.81.89.240 (talk) 13:29, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
- You are welcome to put citations here. I am not sure who else you think is going to provide citations for the claims you are making Czarking0 (talk) 05:15, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
- well, what i meant is that people discussing about this subject in the talk page will put citations and talk about how it would be written in the wikipedia article 109.81.89.240 (talk) 18:51, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- Just not sure what there is to discuss if you're not planning on providing any citations, given this proposal is otherwise wholly your preference. Remsense 🌈 论 18:38, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- well im trying to create a discussion about this topic, of course there will be inline citations in the article when there will be this subject on the main (non-talk page) article 109.81.89.240 (talk) 18:37, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
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