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Korean Tour external link template
[edit]I'm thinking of creating a {{KoreanTour player}} template missing ID and not present in Wikidata. on the lines of the others at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Golf/Templates#External_link_templates. This would link through to http://kgt.co.kr/players/profile.aspx?man_code=nnnnnnnn , eg K. J. Choi would be http://kgt.co.kr/players/profile.aspx?man_code=00000190 . The only issue is that pages are in Korean but the "translate to English" in my Chrome browser is helpful, although occasionally obscure (eg height = 신장 is translated as kidney. The page contains a lot of good stuff. eg the second option (결과 = results) gives season by season results.
Full 2020-21 PGA Tour Schedule published
[edit]Noticed that the PGA Tour have published the full schedule for 2020-21 today [1].
2020 ANA Inspiration
[edit]I am wondering why no one has updated the details of the field in this LPGA Major after it was released on September 4. I have a link which lists the final field here: https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2020/09/04/ana-inspiration-major-field-105-dinah-shore/ Also the 2019 winner will not be competing in this year's event.
Draft:Forfar Golf Club
[edit]Notable but needs a lot of cleanup. I almost approved but it is using Wikipedia as sourcing. Noting here for anyone willing to do cleanup and move to mainspace. Newspapers.com showed some promising sources. CNMall41 (talk) 19:26, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
Inclusion of caddies (in final results)
[edit]I added the caddies used (and their assigned numbers) to the 2026 Masters Tournament page, and the information was removed as "borderline trivia" by @Tewapack. I certainly recognize this is not the current practice, but caddies are an indispensable part of golf and I'm not at all convinced their inclusion is trivial. Trivia would be e.g. grouping and tee times. -- Brad (talk) 20:04, 15 April 2026 (UTC)
- I also had a list of winners and their caddies removed from List of Masters Tournament champions by @NapHit (as "fancruft", which applies almost entirely to fiction). -- Brad (talk) 20:09, 15 April 2026 (UTC)
- Hi @Brad:, but not only do I agree that including caddies is fancruft, but unless I missed something the names are completely unreferenced. That's a big problem in Wikipedia. Regards, PKT(alk) 20:21, 15 April 2026 (UTC)
- Cited in this edit and partially via other existing citations. I still don't know how fancruft can even apply here: "The term 'fancruft' is most commonly applied to fictional works and pop culture", with the examples being things like Pokemon and Star Trek. I am adding real human beings who were present at a major sporting event.
- It goes on to note that
In the context of WP:NOT, the specific focus of the discussion may be that the article is a compilation of facts that reliable sources outside of fan-based reliable sources have not found interesting enough to publish.
- None of this applies to my additions. There are many, many news articles about caddies at the Masters. -- Brad (talk) 20:26, 15 April 2026 (UTC)
- There's a multitude of data that could be added, number of birdies, eagles, putts, average driving distance, clubs used, club manufacturer, etc. The list is almost endless. I don't see that adding the caddie is anything special, so I'm against it's inclusion. Caddies can be notable and if so can have their own article. At the end of day we're an encyclopedia not a repository of endless facts. Nigej (talk) 05:06, 16 April 2026 (UTC).
Masters 2026: Removal of non-playing previous winners' names under qualification criteria
[edit]In relation to the overly-detailed complaint placed on the criteria section of the 2026 masters page by Modest Genius. Is it necessary to include the names of all previous masters winners, even those who did not play in the tournament? The intro to the section says: The following list details the qualification criteria for the 2026 Masters Tournament and the players who qualified under them. To me this reads "...qualified into the tournament". Why are we including those who didn't play, then? The only reason I can see is that it falls in line with the pages for previous iterations of the masters (which is why I haven't just made the change myself). The exact same information can be found simply by crossreferencing with List of Masters Tournament champions... Harryb7 (talk) 20:22, 16 April 2026 (UTC)
- It's been the policy to list all the players who qualify (i.e. are eligible to compete) for all categories in all events. See eg 2025 Open Championship field. This category is no exception. It's true that this particular category is wider than others. Most events have some sort of cut-off (the last x years, or aged under y). I don't really get the point about List of Masters Tournament champions. The list of qualifiers is clearly not the same as the list there since it only includes living players. eg Seve is not listed. This particular category has always been there for the Masters. Indeed going back to the 50s (say) it was a feature of the event that it did include many old-timers (hence the name "Masters"), For some strange reason the Masters organization is reluctant to change this category, even though it's clear that nowadays they don't want the old-timers to turn up. Nigej (talk) 06:25, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
- Agree that it's interesting to see whitch living former winners don't start. I always read this part. It is specially relevant at The Masters, were former winners are invited for dinner and other evenrts, but this kind of information is also interesting for example at the U.S. Seniors Women's Open or The British Seniors Open. Regards, EEJB (talk) 09:14, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
PGA Tour of Australasia Legends Tour site
[edit]Pretty soon I am going to add wins from the Legends Tour to the appropriate players' Wiki pages. On their website they have a column referencing the "Defending Champion" though I think they're referencing the champion for that particular year. Could someone confirm?
Lastly, the drop down only goes through the year 2013 (at least for me). However, it should go through the year 2000. Does it work for anyone on any browser?
Regards,
Chief disambiguator (talk) 00:13, 22 April 2026 (UTC)
- Hi, I suppose at completed tournaments in the schedule, this seasons winner is shown and at upcoming tournaments, defending champion from last season is shown (if tournament is previously played).
- I appreciate your ambition to add this tournament wins in respective players articles, where I think they belong. Regards, EEJB (talk) 06:25, 22 April 2026 (UTC)
- Hi EEJB,
- Thank you for the response! However, I am not exactly sure what you mean.
- My main question deals with the "Defending Champion" and "Champion" distinction. For example, look at the 2013 season. You will notice that they state that the "Defending Champion" of the Tasmanian Seniors Open was Mike Ferguson (golfer), implying that he won it in 2012. However, I think they just mean "Champion" - that he won it that year, in 2013. I still need confirmation for this.
- Lastly, there are a lot of pro-ams on this calendar. We seem to have a loose consensus that we do not include pro-am victories within the Professional wins section. However, these events seem to be an integral part of the tour's schedule. What are people's thoughts about including or not including these Legends pro-am wins?
- Regards,
- Chief disambiguator (talk) 22:36, 22 April 2026 (UTC)Chief disambiguator
- As I understand, any team tournament, with more than two players in the team, is not considered among wins. Two players forming a team can play either on the same ball or, in different ways, on one ball each. Thats why we draw the limit at maximum two players. Also, any tournament with handicap counting involved, could not be considered among wins. Actually, this is not strictly considered as there are some (odd but importrant) tournaments with a slightly part of handicap involved, like the Sunningdale Foursames and tournaments with men and women playing from different tees. Also, at almost every important professional tournament, pro-am competitions (with sponsors and celebrities) are played during the tournament week. Despite any recognition of the best professional score, those competitions are not considered among wins. On the other hand, a two-man-tournament with one professional and one amateur in each team, playing without handicap is considered. Opinions? Regards, EEJB (talk) 07:09, 23 April 2026 (UTC)
- Chief disambiguator (talk) 22:36, 22 April 2026 (UTC)Chief disambiguator
- Thank you for the response EEJB. I know we do not include the champions of the typical pro-am ("professional-amateur" component) of the tournament. However, for this "Defending Champion" column I think they are referring to just the "professional" champion of the event. Presumably, the "professional-amateur" and "professional" tournaments are played concurrently. I suspect these Legends events are similar to the AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am where the professional/celebrity component is played concurrently with the PGA Tour event. But I would like confirmation.
- Most importantly, however, does anyone know if in the "Defending Champion" column they are really referring to that year's "Champion"? Confirmation would be vital.
- Regards,
- Chief disambiguator (talk) 19:10, 26 April 2026 (UTC)Chief disambiguator
Twin Hills Golf & Country Club coordinates issue
[edit]Twin Hills Golf & Country Club has the wrong coordinates. The map has it near Kingfisher, Oklahoma. The course is located near I-35 in Oklahoma City. I tried to fix it myself but kept getting error messages. I was thinking maybe either a) someone here could fix it, or b) point me in the direction of someone who could.-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 13:29, 2 May 2026 (UTC)
- I've fixed the error. Thanks for flagging the issue! ...... PKT(alk) 14:00, 2 May 2026 (UTC)
LPGA Tour career summary
[edit]For many women golfers there is a "LPGA Tour career summary" section. For example, see the pages of Karrie Webb, Amy Yang, and Lexi Thompson. I find this to be yet another example of statistical junk on WP:Golf that violates WP:OR and WP:NOTSTATS and can be deleted. This also seems to be true on some male golfer pages (e.g. Justin Thomas). But I would like to know people's thoughts before deleting.
Regards,
Chief disambiguator (talk) 22:45, 30 May 2026 (UTC)
- Keep
- The tour career summery list says a lot about a players legacy. Golf is game of numbers, especially long-term numbers. These numeric summeries illustrate players careers described in respective article.
- Regards, EEJB (talk) 18:23, 14 June 2026 (UTC)
Article names
[edit]There are move discussions in progress at Talk:Charles Schwab Challenge at Colonial and Talk:The Sentry (California) which, depending on how they turn out, could have ramifications on other golf tournament articles, e.g. Los Angeles Open and Desert Classic. pʰeːnuːmuː → pʰiːnyːmyː → ɸinimi → fiɲimi 18:34, 2 June 2026 (UTC)
Xander Schauffele Photo
[edit]The picture on the Xander Schauffele bio page is incorrect. The photo there is actually of PGA pro Sam Burns. Schauffele‘s photo is found on a number oF web pages, and is free on the USGA.com and PGA.com pages. GigiMuss (talk) 21:05, 20 June 2026 (UTC)