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This is a collection of discussions on the deletion and merging of articles related to Turkey. It is one of many deletion lists coordinated by WikiProject Deletion sorting. Anyone can help maintain the list on this page.

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High-speed rail in Turkey (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I propose merging to Yüksek Hızlı Tren because it overlaps. YHT is the sole operator of high-speed rail in Turkey. 1337.d4nd135 (talk) 17:52, 24 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep / do not merge. I do not think the proposed deletion or merger is supported by the actual scope of the articles. The merge rationale appears to treat the operator, the branded passenger service, and the national high-speed rail system as the same subject. They are not the same. TCDD Transport is the railway operating company, Yüksek Hızlı Tren is the branded high-speed passenger service operated by that company, and High-speed rail in Turkey is the country-level article about the development, infrastructure, history, construction, planning, and technical evolution of high-speed rail in Turkey.
The statement that YHT is the sole operator of high-speed rail in Turkey is not accurate. YHT is not an operator; it is the name of the high-speed train service. :This distinction matters because an article about a branded service has a different scope from an article about a national rail system. The fact that Turkey currently has one principal branded high-speed passenger service does not make the national high-speed rail system identical to that service.
There is certainly some overlap between High-speed rail in Turkey and Yüksek Hızlı Tren, but overlap alone is not a sufficient reason to merge. Under WP:MERGE, merging is appropriate where subjects are essentially duplicate, excessively overlapping, short, or better understood in a single article. That is not the case here. The better solution is to clarify the scope of each article and reduce duplication through normal editing.
The country-level article should focus on the high-speed rail system in Turkey: infrastructure, construction history, planned and proposed routes, technical standards, and the broader development of high-speed rail in the country. The YHT article should focus on the branded passenger service: operated routes, trainsets, service patterns, passenger operations, ridership, and onboard/service-related information.
This structure is also consistent with how similar railway subjects are commonly treated on English Wikipedia, such as High-speed rail in France and TGV, High-speed rail in Germany and Intercity Express, and High-speed rail in Spain and AVE. These examples are not a substitute for policy-based reasoning, but they illustrate that separating a national high-speed rail system from a branded passenger service is a reasonable article structure.
If the concern is duplication, outdated material, or article quality, cleanup would be the appropriate remedy. Material about service patterns and passenger operation can be summarized or moved to Yüksek Hızlı Tren, while infrastructure, construction, planning, and system-level history can remain at High-speed rail in Turkey, with cross-linking under WP:SUMMARYSTYLE. If there is a title concern about “Yüksek Hızlı Tren”, that can be addressed separately through a requested move discussion; it is not a reason to merge the country-level article into the service article.
For these reasons, I oppose deletion and oppose the proposed merger. The articles should remain separate, with cleanup, clearer scope boundaries, and summary-style cross-linking to reduce unnecessary duplication. -- bluetime93 💬 10:23, 25 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Battle of Sibin (1660) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The article appears to be a synthesis of events from the Ottoman wars in Europe and may not describe a distinct, independently recognized battle. The narrative contains numerous engagements that are combined into one and there are mistakes in both physical map coordinates as well as sequence of events, therefore there is no authentication from a solid secondary source that would suggest there was an independent "Battle of Sibin". Fails WP:V, WP:NOR, and potentially WP:GNG. ArchivioItalia 07:26, 22 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Krujë (1415) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG. The subject does not appear to receive significant coverage in reliable secondary sources as a distinct battle. Most sources describe the Ottoman capture of Krujë in 1415 as part of a broader campaign rather than a standalone notable battle. ArchivioItalia 12:47, 21 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Șcheia (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I propose draftifying because this article is entirely unsourced and is likely at least partially AI-generated or AI-assisted. It was previously draftified once for these same issues back in May, but the original author appears to have pasted the exact same content back into mainspace without improvement. Because it has already been moved to draft once, I believe a firm consensus is needed to return it to draftspace. Taking Out The Trash (talk) 21:31, 19 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: this discussion has been included in the AfD sorting lists for the following topics: History, Military, Moldova, and Turkey. Shellwood (talk) 21:34, 19 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]
  • Why would we expect a different outcome from repeating the same draftification action? It didn't solve the problem the first time. Contrary to nom, I would strongly prefer Delete. It's almost surely LLM (look at the use of Markup instead of wikilinks), it's not adequately sourced, and it is POV-pushing: While later nationalistic historiography attempted to frame the event differently is not the kind of thing you can say without very good sourcing. M kuhner (talk) 22:12, 19 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]
    The difference is that I believe a draftification supported by XFD consensus can be enforced, including via round-robin page moves if needed, in the event that the author tries to circumvent it without improvement. A unilateral move-to-draft cannot be enforced in this manner, and is only supposed to be done once. Taking Out The Trash (talk) 14:53, 20 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Kurdistan Students Association (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Not finding any additional sources, seems to fail WP:NORG. Mariamneireach out 🕊️ 13:08, 17 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ASUKITE 15:44, 25 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. The two sources are a PUKmedia piece (the outlet of the party that founded the group, so not independent) and one academic article. A search mostly returned unrelated student groups and party-affiliated press. One source isn't enough for WP:NORG. Happy to reconsider if independent Kurdish-language sources turn up. Onatic (talk) 16:42, 25 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Sevasti Xanthou (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Notability is not inherited. Simply being the wife of Emmanuil Xanthos is not enough to warrant an article. Clarityfiend (talk) 11:27, 14 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Cavarrone 06:24, 21 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]


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