User talk:Fairyrosequartz

June 2026

Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions, such as the edit(s) you made to Sekirei, did not appear to be constructive and have been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use your sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Thank you. Xexerss (talk) 02:49, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Gravitation (manga). Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted.

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Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continued disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. Thank you. Xexerss (talk) 02:50, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing.

• If you are engaged in an article content dispute with another editor, discuss the matter with the editor at their talk page, or the article's talk page, and seek consensus with them. Alternatively you can read Wikipedia's dispute resolution page, and ask for independent help at one of the relevant noticeboards.
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If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Sasaki and Miyano, you may be blocked from editing. Xexerss (talk) 02:50, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Sekirei. Xexerss (talk) 02:51, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

how is it vandalizing to specify demographic tags? Fairyrosequartz (talk) 02:56, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

Fanservice isn't a genre, it has nothing to do with demographics, and it is certainly not an appropriate term to use to describe the work in general terms, and it was published in a seinen manga magazine, as mentioned later on. Xexerss (talk) 02:57, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

I was adding Seinen and shojo etc demographic specifications just because I wasn’t editing it properly on the first or 3rd tries with links doesn’t mean I was intentionally vandalizing. I am doing this so people know who it’s for to help people stay safe at conventions. I understand fanservice is more of a theme category. Fairyrosequartz (talk) 03:00, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

Demographic categories depend on where the series is published, not on the series itself. That's why it's more accurate to say that it was published in a seinen magazine, rather than calling it a seinen series. Xexerss (talk) 03:01, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

I appreciate the clarification on the editorial standards for demographic tags. My intent in adding them isn't to be redundant or a troll, but to provide clearer context for consumers. There has been a significant rise in harassment toward women and gender-fluid fans and cosplayers in these spaces, both at conventions and online (specifically in the women’s BL space) and I believe that accurately documenting the demographic history of these works specifically is a small but important step in helping fans identify the spaces intended for them, which can be crucial for community and cosplayer safety. The Seinen stuff tho is already pretty point and forward. Fairyrosequartz (talk) 03:08, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

Okay. I understand your intentions, but please also consider the perspective of an average reader of the site, who may not be familiar with the world of anime and manga. They might not even know what a manga is, so introducing the work as a "seinen fanservice manga series" could be very confusing. This is why it's important to phrase things appropriately when introducing each relevant term, making the lead easy to read. Xexerss (talk) 03:36, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

Okay that’s fair. I appreciate you wanting the lead to be accessible for everyone here, but 'accessibility' for a general reader cannot come at the harm of erasing the actual demographic context that dictates how these specific Boys Love works are experienced and who is being targeted in real life because of it.

The 'average reader' you are concerned about is not the person being harassed at conventions who usually consumes it. I feel that when the wiki fails to specify that these titles are for dansou reiya and crossplayer girls rather than just the fujoshi/fudanshi consumer, it leaves a void that is filled by the harmful assumption that these participants in public are gay men or that they are performing for the “male gaze” when it’s actually “female gaze”. As someone who makes BL Joseimuke doujinshi in Japan as well as cosplays I’ve unfortunately had the experience of gay men harassing me at a con or assuming im available because of crossplay and the women’s cosplay BL content not being specific on English websites. I have had friends say “im scared of outing myself if I cosplay Aoba Seragaki” or otherwise. It’s really terrifying to me. That it all. Fairyrosequartz (talk) 03:52, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

I also would like to add this other important information:

Bc the Japanese version of the Boys’ Love Wikipedia still assumes fujoshi consumers and target audience are all straight women, and I find that to be inaccurate since the American Boy’s Love Wikipedia expresses hints of androgynous lesbians and transmen mostly being the cosplayers for it and consumers of it while it lies the fujoshi are mostly straight and the fudanshis are all gay when they’re not. And most fudanshis I’ve met aren’t normies and most are transboys. I’ve talked to many BL manga artist girls and read articles where they express they are often nonbinary feather than just female. I feel like this erases the queer community that encompasses this space rather than mostly gay men, as, the female-oriented BL manga/anime space is mostly otaku not every day consumers. Fairyrosequartz (talk) 04:04, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

It also ignores its relationships to visual kei, boyles identies, scene kid subculture, Yuri and Yaoi artists both being the same person often a woman I’ve only ever known around 10 or less cismale BL artists in the industry that make it for women, its relationship to Flower Knows founders as they were ex BL cosplayers that were really popular with women before they founded Flower Knows before they retired from that, Comiket BL cosplayers and BL doujinshi artists often being the same women, Fujoshi/Fudanshi terms having a relationship to visual kei, I think that’s about it. Fairyrosequartz (talk) 04:11, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

Sorry for so many replies but it’s genuinely a misogynistic systemic issue that Wikipedia could help stop.

Bc they advertise Yaoi/BL cosplays but men gatekeep it even tho it’s advertised on a girl. Fairyrosequartz (talk) 04:21, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

I'm truly sorry you had to go through something like that, but getting back to the topic at hand, as I said, it's not that the terminology should be omitted, but rather that it should be introduced appropriately to make the article easier to understand for anyone who reads it. I don't mean to downplay what you're commenting here, but I must remind you that Wikipedia is not a forum nor a personal blog; if there's something in an article that you don't agree with and you think it should be changed, you should discuss it on that article's talk page. If you want to share your thoughts or talk about personal issues or situations, unfortunately this isn't the right place for that. Xexerss (talk) 04:19, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

I appreciate you forwarding me to the talk page. However another concern, last time I did that, my IP was blocked, which scared me, because this is like systemic erasure of queer girls that go to American anime cons. And it’s very scary and abusive. Fairyrosequartz (talk) 04:23, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

If you use the site with the goal of improving articles through constructive editing, and your discussions also focus on that, there should be no reason for you to be blocked. Xexerss (talk) 04:38, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

but that happened! I tagged Wikipedia on X/Twitter of what got erased of Talk. Please look at it. I couldn’t message it privately bc there’s no DMs there. Please look into it. I’m tired of seeing things like crossplayer lesbians get pop cans thrown at them at American convention centers. Fairyrosequartz (talk) 05:01, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I am not a site administrator, so I cannot look into issues regarding blocked users. You might want to check out Template:Admin help and explain your situation regarding the block. Xexerss (talk) 05:09, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

I understand you're not trying to be disruptive, but please refrain from engaging in original research as you did in Togainu no Chi. Genres require sources, and MOS:A&M recommends listing no more than three. Once again, I'd like to emphasize the issue of terminology; it's not appropriate to introduce a work as "Joseimuke BL visual novel", and you would also need a reliable source that explicitly refers to it as "joseimuke", not simply label it as such, without further ado. The term does not appear to be widely used for categorization purposes, so it would be inappropriate to refer to the work as such in the article. Xexerss (talk) 09:33, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

Hello! Ok so it already hints it’s Joseimuke bc it shows it’s advertised inside B’s-LOG is a Japanese geek women’s magazine and Nitro+Chiral products is always advertised in it. It’s studio are actually an underground visual novel Joseimuke doujinshi-soft company for women under their parent company Nitro+ which makes eroge men.

As someone who makes Girls Side (Joseimuke) BL and Otome, it’s in a different marketing section entirely from Gay men’s comics and games. So they’re actually different things. Joseimuke BL is an otaku nerd girl thing where they cosplay from it as dansou cosplayers mostly known as crossplayers.

DLsite aka the doujinshi market site for Comiket has the girls section (Otome/BL) here (Warning NSFW): https://www.dlsite.com/girls/ (you can find my own doujinshi circles under Heart Lock & Key and Broken Blush Dolly there for fun if you want)

See they advertise this kind of BL for girls here: https://www.bs-log.com/

or profile fan talk pages for these Joseimuke BL artists here: https://www.moegirl.jp Fairyrosequartz (talk) 01:17, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

Sorry I made the wrong link it is actually: https://moegirl.uk/Mainpage Fairyrosequartz (talk) 01:20, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

Crossplay (cosplay) Fairyrosequartz (talk) 01:22, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

I am friends with many female oriented BL mangaka/Japanese dansou cosplayers and feminists with one artist mutual I have reaching 214k followers on X formerly Twitter if you need their input.

my official published Joseimuke Artist Japan/Global account with feminist BL mangaka and dansou cosplayers is here: https://x.com/kagikokoro_HLK Fairyrosequartz (talk) 01:29, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

See? Nitro+Chiral BL characters are for girls bc they become feminist androgynous lesbians or similar identities/ chuusei see:

https://www.cosfun.com/products/dramatical-murder-dmmd-aoba-seragaki-cosplay-jacket-mp003202?currency=USD&country=US&variant=47473801134368&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Google%20Shopping&stkn=75042c92bbef&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=17413915881&gbraid=0AAAAACWBmEYGiEp_KAD4UhVf2KHQVVpPB&gclid=Cj0KCQjw_7PRBhDcARIsAMjV7jmII88bXGLQS7v-nl0wYHe3p8k-vQY1KX_WDTQgbS1xVBNOG-SQbpsaAhJiEALw_wcB Fairyrosequartz (talk) 01:37, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

its exhausting to have to explain it: ok the cisgender gay men are manipulating and forcemascing those Roxas and Sora cosplayer lesbians on the Crossplayer wiki see? Aoba Seragaki isn’t advertised on a gay man it’s an alternative Asian girl. So American gay men constantly demand representation in this type of BL or want to ban it bc they think it’s them and not these chuusei feminist crossplayer lesbians. Fairyrosequartz (talk) 01:43, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

Bc then I tell him: Yaoi/Joseimuke BL and Geikomi (Bara which is actually a Japanese homophobic slur) aren’t even the same thing so idk why I have to explain this. Fairyrosequartz (talk) 01:46, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

bara is a homophobic slur in Japan—and that it is no longer used in that way it’s just called Gay Manga usually but it’s in BL for men not women. They’re entirely separate M/M aesthetics and Gay Manga for men doesn’t usually become cosplay outfits :

https://www.dlsite.com/bl/fsr/=/order/trend/is_gay/1 Fairyrosequartz (talk) 01:53, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

Bc Joseimuke BL is performatively visual kei gay it’s not a representation of real men and shouldn’t be clumped with it anyway bc it becomes feminist crossplayer lesbians that usually sew their own costumes see? Fairyrosequartz (talk) 01:57, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

Because this and the Cosplay is Not Consent movement are related so please include it more. Thank you. Fairyrosequartz (talk) 01:59, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

Look, Wikipedia relies primarily on reliable secondary sources. To claim that X is Y, you have to provide a RELIABLE SECONDARY SOURCE that explicitly states that X is Y. The sources you've provided here are WP:USERG (such as personal Twitter accounts) and retailers. You cannot simply claim, based on your own judgment, knowledge, and experience, that X is Y without any supporting evidence in the article; see WP:NOTTRUTH. And I would kindly ask you to stop using the term "joseimuke" to introduce works or companies in the articles you're editing, assuming that all readers will be familiar with it; it's too niche a term to use as a broad description. This isn't about censorship or marginalizing any specific group; it's about maintaining an encyclopedic approach and ensuring that articles can be easily understood by any reader, ideally with as little need as possible to click on another term's article to understand what's being talked about. Xexerss (talk) 05:09, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

Regarding your request to remove 'Joseimuke': I am contributing from a professional perspective as a manga artist and author within the Joseimuke as it is called in the Comic Market circuit where this content originates and women’s otaku BL doujinshi/manga/VN sectors such as Mandarake. To label this term as 'too niche' and request its removal is to fundamentally misrepresent the genre's categorization since the content itself is actually and factually a niche mostly underground women’s comics genre related to visual kei subculture. Joseimuke is the specific, long-standing industry standard address for this specific female media content; it is not a niche sub-category to be avoided, but the primary home for these works and it feels erasive towards fujoshi and fudanshi otaku subculture to claim otherwise.

Furthermore, your claim that this is not about marginalizing any group ignores the reality of how these standards are actually applied in real life. By privileging external, detached 'secondary sources' and explicitly silencing the primary, professional knowledge of the mostly female and nonbinary queer creators themselves—specifically the women, crossplayer girl performers, dansou and nonbinary artists overall who built and still to this day sustain this genre—your editing standards are enforcing a systemic erasure towards these kinds of geeks in the immediate community. As a professional shojo BL/GL/TL mangaka operating under the pseudonym Kagimiya Kokoro (鍵宮ココロ) currently for adult women (Joseimuke) even being called sensei as that is the industry form of address for an artist of my employment, I am currently developing the Heartbeat Symphony (ハートビート♡交響曲) series IN Japanese overseas and work there in Japanese. I maintain professional creator profiles on women’s media platforms such as Chil-Chil, release the prototype artwork on Pixiv for publication in this genre, and Manga Plus Creators, and my work is a matter of public record within the industry.

When you insist on stripping away accurate terminology to make the topic palatable for a general, unfamiliar audience, you are prioritizing their comfort over the historical and creative reality of the people who actually produce this work. You are essentially asking me to sanitize the queer and female origins of bishonen and dansou culture to fit an editorial framework that is not designed to recognize our agency. This is not 'encyclopedic neutrality'; it is a structural barrier that actively marginalizes the overwhelmingly female creators who define this space in the first place. I could even talk to Uiro Yamada (a professional lead illustrator who is head artist of Slow Damage for the Nitro+Chiral imprint for women under the Nitro+ studio which I could also email and engage with this if I have to who mainly makes content for men under their main label. To not specify Nitro+Chiral is factually and actually women’s media is erasive as it becomes these anti-patriarchal feminist lesbian crossplayers and to not address it causes confusion and mistreatment of us, often the same women that paint it, at these events. Again, to claim the niche label it’s sold under isn’t valid because it’s a niche title that publishes this exact content for women in the first place amongst anime fans when it is and has always been feminist artwork media in Japan just feels extremely erasive and misogynistic towards the women who make it for each other. Fairyrosequartz (talk) 06:56, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

I guess I am trying to figure out how to do this your way, so what you’re saying is you want English sources for media categorization that is so Japanese it’s not translated all the time? That causes a mistranslation miscommunication. I am not sure how to credit untranslated source context for Wikipedia sources that desperately need it if you need English sources for it when there isn’t any because translators don’t translate every Japanese page or terminology or content. So much Japanese content has zero English adaptations so what do you need me to do to fix it? Fairyrosequartz (talk) 07:29, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

I am just trying to understand how to solve this as Comic Market Japan related websites such as DLsite Garumani, Chil-Chil, Circle.ms, Pixiv, publications of Be X Boy Gold and B’s-LOG etc how are those not official sources if it is the exact same industry these girls work in, to begin with to make the niche women’s BL content itself. Dansou I believe even has its own article on this very website and so does visual kei, and sources on visual kei clearly state its relation this Boy’s Love content for women. So please, tell me how to solve this language resource barrier. Fairyrosequartz (talk) 07:38, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

Also one more thing, sorry for my extra comments instead of combining them effectively but Mr. Wikipedia editor/admin, please tell me why does the Boys Love media page itself mention BL fans turning to lesbianism and trans male identities being realized thru this women’s BL content only a few times and pretends it’s also not there. Please explain to me why your website does this to the fujoshi community. Thank you. Fairyrosequartz (talk) 07:43, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

And before you dismiss all this important information as “Wikipedia is not a forum for social justice” or "We only reflect what reliable secondary sources (English) say, that’s also erasive of Japanese pop culture and their own society itself surrounding this. It also fails to acknowledge the fictional men in this specific kind of BL content are hermaphroditic/androgynous vessels in nature who impregnate eachother and change their anatomy in their aesthetic presentation. Please explain to me why. Thank you I apologize. Fairyrosequartz (talk) 07:49, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

As editors, we must contribute to and edit articles based on what the sources indicate, and of course, include said sources in the article. We are not authorities who can edit articles however we please, no matter how much we personally know about a topic or even if we are experts on a topic, and this applies to ALL Wikipedia articles; please, read Wikipedia:No original research. That is why independent sources are so important, and why we must avoid conducting original research. Original research is fine in any other field, but not here. I recommend that you familiarize yourself with Wikipedia's policies, guidelines, and manuals of style if you want to continue contributing here. Otherwise, there are thousands of other sites where you can write, express yourself, and share knowledge about the topics you're passionate about. Xexerss (talk) 07:58, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

By the way, I never said that only English-language sources are valid. What I am saying, and I emphasize this, is that an article, especially the lead, should be presented in such a way that anyone can understand it without having to look up the associated terminology, rather than being written on the assumption that the reader is already familiar with those terms. Imagine a reader unfamiliar with Japanese culture, anime, and manga reading the lead of an article that says, for example: "[Title of work] is a Japanese joseimuke BL ecchi doujinshi manga series..." and has to click on each of those terms to understand what it's talking about. From that perspective, don't you think that's a bit impractical and confusing? If those terms are indeed relevant to the work in question, there should be more appropriate sentences or sections in which to include this terminology, along with the corresponding sources. See MOS:INTRO. Xexerss (talk) 08:33, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

I also suggest you read WP:MTAU. Xexerss (talk) 08:46, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

A Block and Deleted Thread - Erasure of Dansou Cosplayers or “Crossplayers”

@Boys' love fandomand my link to the tagged post that was deleted/silenced/erased/scrubbed on Twitter!!!? https://x.com/lovelyotogi35/status/2064866837980983433?s=46

I feel like this is part of why Cosplay Is Not Consent is not working at conventions. Female artists and cosplayers are getting harassed I have discussed with with the other Wikipedia editor @Xexerss In the other thread where he couldn’t assist me in his position. Details including association with visual kei, MySpace/DeviantArt/Pixiv subculture is not highlighted. The lack of knowledge of Japanese art form of Dansou rather than just the fujoshi/fudanshi consumers. I feel this is both culturally erasive and harmful to queer women. Please look into it! Thank you! A Professional Global Cosplayer/Joseimuke BL TL and GL Doujinshi creator. Fairyrosequartz (talk) 06:22, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm not sure if I'm following. I assumed you were saying that you were blocked for editing while logged out and that your discussion was deleted, but the temp account ~2026-34359-14 has no block log and the discussion you mentioned is still there. Xexerss (talk) 06:47, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

oh it is! sorry I got a IP block so I panicked. Can moderators address this issue and add education about this on the Fujoshi related Wikis for this. Thank you. Fairyrosequartz (talk) 08:08, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

A lot of English-language coverage in anime spaces (and unfortunately Wikipedia as well) tend to focus on mainstream series, and as someone who generally makes Wikipedia articles that mainstream anime sites won't cover (such as shojo/josei manga and BL manga with live-action adaptations) I understand your frustration. However, I do have to mention that these topics are quite niche and I welcome you to help draft any improvements that need to be made in the articles. Morgan695 also works on BL/queer articles; maybe they can help as well. lullabying (talk) 09:03, 14 June 2026 (UTC)