User talk:BuzzGnat

October 2021

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate your contributions; however, it appears you may have written a Wikipedia article, or a draft for a Wikipedia article, about yourself, at Natalie Kwadrans. Creating an autobiography is strongly discouraged – please see our guideline on writing autobiographies. If you create such an article, it may be deleted. If what you have done in life is genuinely notable and can be verified according to our policy for articles about living people, someone else will probably create an article about you sooner or later (see Wikipedians with articles). If you wish to add to or change an existing article about yourself, you are welcome to propose the changes by visiting the article's talk page. Please understand that this is an encyclopedia and not a personal web space or social networking site. If your article has already been deleted, please see: Why was the page I created deleted?, and if you feel the deletion was an error, please discuss this with the deleting administrator. Thank you. Senator2029 【talk】 20:40, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

Help me!

Please help me with... fixing my page to remove notice Natalie Kwadrans

The message is "m v2.05 - Fix errors for CW project (Reference list missing / disambiguation page with disallowed <ref> - Multiple categories on one line - Category duplication)"

Can someone please provide me with guidance on this? I would like to make other edits to my page, however I will wait to better understand if I am doing things correctly before making further changes.

Thank you! BuzzGnat (talk) 10:40, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

The message you have put is someone coming a long and fixing some errors. As for the reference errors, you have WP:OVERCITEed. To be clear: 1. There should be a maximum of 3 references per claim. 2. Each claim which could be challenged must be sourced, so the whole of Personal Life should be sourced, or removed. 3. Any user-provided content are not acceptable references, so remove LinkedIn, YouTube, Vimeo etc and 4. Any document authored, co-authored or had editorial changes by the subject are not acceptable. - Rich^T|C|E-Mail 13:09, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

I have trimmed down the references and removed the unsourced content, I'm not too sure about removing the notice just yet, so I'll leave a help me tag to allow others to have a look. However, I would suggest adding a WP:LEAD to readers can quickly see who she is - Rich^T|C|E-Mail 13:20, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi Rich,

Thanks! This is super helpful! I will take a look at it over the next few days to week as I had chemo yesterday, and it’s a fairly new treatment with random and inconsistent side effects.

I can easily trim down the references. Out of curiosity, could one of the three references link to my “In the News and Advocacy” page on my blog, which has a list of all the verifiable news and third party content? Here’s the link. It’s broken out by type of reference. If you could let me know, that would be amazing!

https://kwadrans.ca/check-out-these-cancer-related-stories/

I will also craft up a little WP:LEAD, based on other examples.

Thank you so much!

Once I’ve made changes, can I check in with you again to see if I addressed (hopefully) all the concerns? Or is it best that I create a new “Help me” post? BuzzGnat (talk) 16:37, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

The fact you are the article subject, per WP:COI, you should not be editing your own article, instead making edit requests - Rich^T|C|E-Mail 22:26, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi Rich,

Thanks for getting back to me so quickly. I appreciate the time you are taking to help me. I'm glad you told me about disclosing the COI. I wasn't trying to hide it, which is why I didn't hesitate to mention it in my last reply. It totally makes sense. As I have been reading and learning, I have definitely been trying to keep everything as neutral as possible, and will continue to do so now that I know (kind of... that's one off my questions) about submitting COI edit requests.

Question 1: I have read through the WP:COI and the Edit Request links you provided. It took me to the Wikipedia:Edit Request Wizard/COI. That seems to be the easiest way to request updates for newbies like me. Is that what you would suggest to start?

Question 2: I was looking at the verifiable sources for any personal life validation (eg. where I lived when on Team Canada). The issue I am anticipating is that the articles from the mid-1990s aren't available online.

I read through the Wikipedia:Offline sources and I kept copies of the news articles when I could get the reporters to snail mail me print copies. I do have the original news articles from credible newspapers that can support any statements when I submit my COI edit request. The Offline Sources page mentions providing an image or scan of the source/ article, so I have done so today. What I haven't been able to figure out is how to submit them with the request. I haven't found an article that explains how do that. I want to make sure that I make it easy for the reviewers to have the information they need and reduce the risk of the source being contested.

Do you know of a Wikipage that explains it, or would it be possible you walk me through the process as to how to do that when I submit an edit request?

I'll start my first edit request with a Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lead section based on your note. It also won't require offline articles for that section, so I can work on that for now. :)

Once again, I really appreciate your help! BuzzGnat (talk) 00:59, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

Question 1: That's the one you need

Question 2: Offline sources are fine, have a look at {{cite news}}. As long as someone, somewhere can verify it that is fine. You do not need to upload images of the source. - Rich^T|C|E-Mail 19:01, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

Thank you so much! I will work with that.

I think I have everything I need. Thanks tons for your support. Have a great day and great weekend. :) BuzzGnat (talk) 19:05, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi I removed your Helpdesk question, I believe that is what you wanted. TSventon (talk) 21:01, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi! Yes, thank you very much for doing that.

As someone who had chemo yesterday and truly tried to find the answer within the Wikipages, and by following the advice in this thread.

I thought this question had been closed off after I read the yellow box above, which indicated that if I had other questions, I should create a new Talk or go to Treehouse. I had asked the question here first, and didn't think Rich would respond after I realize I asked the question after it said to create a new one. That was a mistake I made as someone who is working through this as a beginner.

Treehouse was positioned as a good place for new users and new reviewers (I'm not sure the official name) to ask questions after trying to find the answer individually, which I did by reading through all the links Rich provided, and then dug in further. Since I couldn't confirm the best approach on my own as I have never done it, I truly thought that Treehouse would be a safe place to ask my question.

Minutes after I posted the question, Rich responded to them here, even though I should have started that as a new question. Thank you Rich! I appreciate it, and you gave me the answer I needed, instead of the shame I felt from the response I received on Treehouse, yet without ever getting the answer to my question.

I never thought that closing off my question with "Thanks tons for your help on this topic" would be considered inappropriate and cause so much controversy..

I thank you very much for deleting my question. For future questions, I will make sure to ask them as a separate Talk, and I will stay away from Teahouse!

Thank you both for your help. BuzzGnat (talk) 21:19, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

Chemo

Hi, many thanks for the award. Some 15 years ago (vaguely around the time I started editing on WP) I was diagnosed with a rare form of Hodgkin's Lymphoma, in itself a rare type of cancer. Luckily our amazing NHS had exactly the right drug to treat it, and after nine months of fortnightly chemotherapy treatment they said, "Well, we think it's gone for the moment." Recent tests have shown that whatever was left inside my body is still quiescent. You never know, this one is never completely eradicated.

Chemo (a very wide term encompassing a large variety of drugs) has very different effects on different people - but it is never fun. I sincerely hope your treatment works. You are very brave to even think about editing WP while undergoing treatment. It left me totally zonked out for about 20 hours a day - I woke up, said hello to people, had a bite to eat, then back to sleep for another 20 hours. If you have other things to do, I would tend to do them - WP is not the most welcoming place, indeed it can be wholly unforgiving. There will always someone to "put you right". You need to be able to leave the criticism behind, and just keep going. It is an endless, continuously steep learning process. Wikipedia will carry on without you. If you are feeling vulnerable in any way, editing WP is most definitely contra-indicated. We are all striving towards the very best presentation of reliable information available on the planet, and most editors forget that they were noobs once. I was recently banned for six months for being infernally rude to another editor, and I hope I have learned my lesson.

You might consider creating your user page - type anything and press 'Publish' - and perhaps include one of these userboxes. Anything you need a hand with on WP, just ask on my TP.

Anyway, you have my very best wishes for the future, both with your external life and here on WP. I don't do awards, barnstars etc, but here are some pix of a huge medieval barn near where I used to live (formatting may not work)

MinorProphet (talk) 21:54, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

Hey,

I'm very familiar with Hodgkins. My younger brother had it 3x over the span of 20 or so years. The last time he had a recurrence, they gave him ~1 year to live. It's been almost 15. Maybe more? My cancer is terminal, and I am down to my last few treatment options, though the one I am on now, and the next one are called anti-drug conjugates (basically a chemotherapy attached to an immunotherapy to help the chemo target the cancer cells, and in theory causing less side effects. I'm on the fence on that claim, but it's only been my 6th one, and the first 3 were done with while recovering from emergency abdominal surgery and then emergency radiation (I got in within 4 weeks from being in the ER, getting my emergency surgery, going through radiation mapping (usually a 2 week process in itself), getting chemo 2 weeks after being discharged, a week later had a week of daily radiation, then one week off, then another chemo treatment. As you likely know, radiation peaks around 2-4 weeks after the last (depending on the number of grays received over a period of time), and the compounding effects of chemo, it's been "a bumpy ride". I'm hoping that things get easier this time, as the radiation effect should all be gone now. I can totally relate to the experience you had.

My brother also has the same annual updates, and they have reduced his PET scans to every 2 years, though oncologist visits are still annually to monitor for palpable lymph nodes, and make sure he doesn't have any red flags. If that were the case, they would trigger an earlier scan. What's better is that between genetic testing becoming increasingly accessible and researched, combined with the power of AI, those are increasing the rate research can be completed. While this is great for for cancer, it will impact all healthcare--think MS, diabetes, ALS, Parkinson's, autism, etc. The drug I am currently on (Enhertu), was only approved in Canada in mid-2021. That was 2.5 years after my terminal diagnosis. With the use of AI, researchers were able to find benefits for other breast cancer subtypes, and more recently, it has been approved for certain lung cancers, stomach cancers, and almost any cancer that has a HER2 protein receptor. Without AI, humans wouldn't be able to sift that quickly through all the existing research globally. Hold on to that thought as we know our cancers can be quiescent, the fact is that in your case and in mine--it has spread to my bones--through our stem cells, and they can unfortunately never permanently be eradicated. At least not yet. I'm hoping that healthcare research will see an acceleration in treatment availability through precision oncology, and that I will be old enough to see my kids graduate high school, which means I need to stick around another 8 years or so!

I have to laugh about your comment about being rude and band recently, and hoping that you learned your lesson. The fact that it is top of mind, and that you jumped in on the individual who provided commentary lends me to believe you have learned, or at very least, are conscious of your actions before taking them.

Thank you to all of you for your advice, shielding me from my first bad experience, and taking the question down so that it didn't cause more drama. With all of your advice, I think I have a better idea of what to expect, and next steps.

Have a great rest of your day/ evening/ morning and soon to be weekend, depending on where you are in the world! BuzzGnat (talk) 23:17, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

It's night here, briefly, in the UK. Only three days till solstice. :-) MinorProphet (talk) 23:53, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

Yes! It's so bright out. Where I live is at 50.1 latitude (north) so the days are relatively long.! BuzzGnat (talk) 23:11, 21 June 2026 (UTC)