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Happy editing! monkeysmashingkeyboards (talk) 21:26, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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quiet clanker Brendan Peace (talk) 14:51, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but I don't understand the hostility or the disregard for our policy. First of all, I assume you got that information from somewhere: surely it is not too much trouble to cite a source. We are an encyclopedia. Second, when you go back and improve on those edits, please make sure that capitalization and punctuation are done properly. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 14:09, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is, is that I cant find the sources. most of the things I try to find are just regurgitation of the Wikipedia article on the Korean Service Medal, national Defense Service Medal, etc. The original regulations and papers are buried in some corner of the national archives.
the information never really came from anywhere. I know from experience with medals and military decorations that all Korean War Era veterans (1950-1954) were eligible for the National Defense Service Medal. and those who deployed in theatre to Korea were automatically eligible for Korean Service Medal, United Nations Service Medal, Korean War Service Medal and the Korean Presidential Unit Citation. Brendan Peace (talk) 14:39, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
OK--but then, and I hate to tell you this, it's original research, and it's not a thing you can put in the article--especially not in this case, since, if the guy was a defector and dishonorably discharged, why would they give him the medals? We can't just assume that a "normal" situation (the status of which we derive from what the Wikipedia article says?) applies in every situation--even the assumption of a normal situation is original research. Plus, as I noted on that other editor's talk page, is something that everyone gets worth listing in an encyclopedic article? Thanks, Drmies (talk) 14:47, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Dishonorable Discharges don't affect campaign medals, if anything. he would have had any Valor decorations (Silver Star, Bronze Star, etc) or awards for service (Good Conduct Medal, Commendation Medals, etc) stripped. His POW Medal would have likely been revoked too (Or never awarded as the POW was first created in 1989.) campaign medals, and possibly things like combat badges or the Purple Heart would stay. Brendan Peace (talk) 15:23, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
OK, maybe, sure--but what you are explaining to me is original research, really, with variables and likelihoods. It's worth checking over at WP:MILHIST. Drmies (talk) 15:46, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Alright.
I do got a question though
do you think that a picture of someone in dress uniform constitutes a good enough source, often for the pages I edit it has a picture of them in their full dress uniform. with their ribbons. is that good enough or should I find something else to use as a source? Brendan Peace (talk) 16:45, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I came here to say something similar – a core principle of Wikipedia is that information is verifiable and backed up by reliable sources. Adding information, such as award sections, without a single reference is not helpful and, indeed, violates Wikipedia's policies. Please only add award sections if you are also able to provide reliable references to verify that the person actually received those awards; do not add them on the basis of assumption. Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 06:03, 10 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Regaurding red cloud. the TWS shadow box shows all of his awards. I don't know why we are reverting it to one that is of lower quality Brendan Peace (talk) 18:47, 6 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
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Your edit of the Nick Bacon article has left the last row of ribbons askew. I don't have a clue of how to fix this. Would you be so kind as to see what can be done to fix this. Thank you. Cuprum17 (talk) 13:28, 16 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

That was intentional. the Ribbons with a frame around them are on a totally separate side of the uniform and as such are put in a different row. Brendan Peace (talk) 15:36, 16 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, you are quite correct on the Army uniform. While I was in the Army (1966-68), I retired from the Coast Guard (2007) where ribbons are worn on the left side, even the unit citations. My apologies. Cuprum17 (talk) 17:01, 16 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
You're all good. The Army is the odd one out. With Unit Awards being worn on the left breast. the USAF, USMC, Navy and CG are worn alongside the uniform (Unless you wear medals, then ribbon only awards are worn on the right side.) Brendan Peace (talk) 17:06, 16 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
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January 2026

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Hi, regarding your edits on the awards and decorations of David Kenyon Webster and Herbert Sobel (and apparently dozens of others), citations of reliable sources are required (see WP:CITE and WP:RS) on Wikpedia. Making assumptions for something for which you have no reliable source (for example, than an infantryman received a CIB, or a wounded man must have earned a Purple Heart) constitutes original research, which is forbidden on Wikipedia (see WP:OR). I trust going forward you will cite your sources, using reliable, non-user-generated sources. Rift (talk) 22:00, 29 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

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Major points of contention.

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When editing i've run into a few people unfamiliar with American Military Awards, if you are unsure if my edit makes sense. Please refer to these Links as they have been the major points of contention

Bronze Star Medal (without "V" device) awarded to all WWII CIB and CMB recipients[1]

Army Good Conduct Medal TiS reduction for WWII and Korea[2]

Combat Action Ribbon made retroactive to WWII and Korea[3] Brendan Peace (talk) 18:02, 15 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Bronze Star Medal". tioh.army.mil. Archived from the original on 2025-09-07. Retrieved 2026-02-15.
  2. ^ "Army Good Conduct Medal". Air Force's Personnel Center. Archived from the original on 2025-12-08. Retrieved 2026-02-15.
  3. ^ Rep. McNulty, Michael R. [D-NY-21 (1995-02-28). "All Info - H.R.895 - 104th Congress (1995-1996): To provide for retroactive award of the Navy Combat Action Ribbon based upon participation in ground or surface combat as a member of the Navy or Marine Corps during the period between July 4, 1943, and March 1, 1961". www.congress.gov. Retrieved 2026-02-15.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list (link)

February 2026

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I will ask you again to please stop adding giant chunks of unsourced material (e.g. medal tables) to servicemen. Unsubstantiated material is subject to removal. You have been doing this for weeks now on dozens of articles. Please read WP:CITE and WP:RS for information on how to cite reliable sources. If there is no reliable source for that information, it does not belong on Wikipedia. Thank you. Rift (talk) 21:52, 4 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Brother. The Wikipedia article for Col Shomo clearly shows his Awards. why the hell are we removing it? Brendan Peace (talk) 12:30, 6 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Adding unsourced information (third warning)

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Information icon Please do not add or change content, as you did at Tony Stein, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources to see how to add references to an article. Thank you. Rift (talk) 20:15, 5 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

No Brendan Peace (talk) 22:36, 5 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
The source posted for Robert S Scott has an image of him in his dress uniform. showing all of his awards at retirement Brendan Peace (talk) 12:35, 6 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
The source posted for Charles W Shea clearly shows his awards on his dress uniform Brendan Peace (talk) 12:37, 6 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
It has been explained to you above, by Drmies and others, that such original research is not allowed. Content added to articles needs to be supported by reliable sources, not your interpretation of photos. Edit warring to restore disputed content will only result in further blocks.-- Ponyobons mots 20:13, 6 March 2026 (UTC)-- Ponyobons mots 20:13, 6 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
What do you mean 'interpetation of photos'. If a soldier is wearing medals on his uniform. he was awarded said medals. Brendan Peace (talk) 21:08, 6 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I.E, for the photo of col scott. photos of him in uniform show him wearing the MOH ribbon, BSM, PH, ADSM, ACM, APCM, WWII Victory Medal, Army of Occupation Medal, NDSM, KSM and UNKSM. as well as a CIB. That is a good enough reference to add awards on. Brendan Peace (talk) 21:12, 6 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
You are using your personal knowledge of the subject (e.g. the specific medal in question) to state a fact that is not supported by a published reliable source. That's original research. You cannot continue to do that. Doing so repeatedly after your edits are challenged on this basis is edit warring. This also cannot continue. Again, others have attempted to explain this to you repeatedly. You don't have to agree with our policies regarding sourcing and verifiability, but you need to abide by them.-- Ponyobons mots 21:33, 6 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
So I have to expect everyone to be retarded. got it Brendan Peace (talk) 21:36, 6 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
No, you can expect that this is a global project with readers from myriad cultures and backgrounds. Building content based on reliable sourcing ensures that our readers can independently verify the information they are reading. Comments like yours above are not welcome.-- Ponyobons mots 21:49, 6 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
They can, i always add the links to said awards in the description box. and if they really didnt trust me, they could read through the section (For example the WWII Victory medal) and see if or if not the award would be authorized for wear by the person.
or alternatively, they can cross check the reference images, with the link to the medals Wikipedia article. Brendan Peace (talk) 22:05, 6 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Screenshot of the Awards Section
Screenshot of the Awards Infobox
File:Robert S. Scott.webp
Picture of Robert S Scott from the MOH Website
Using Robert S. Scott as an Example. you can Cross check the awards in the infobox with the ones on his uniform photo and visually conirm those are the ones that were added. And then Cross check that with the Wikipedia article for said Medal to confirm they were correctly identified as such Brendan Peace (talk) 12:02, 9 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
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If you believe that there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Ponyobons mots 22:55, 5 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
The articles I edit are based on knowledge either from their uniform photos. or based off of awards which they would have received automatically for their service in the period. (I.E the WWII Victory Medal being added for any period of service between 12/7/1941 or 12/29/1946) Brendan Peace (talk) 12:42, 6 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Or shadow boxes. Brendan Peace (talk) 12:42, 6 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

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You have been blocked from editing for a period of 2 weeks for continuing to edit war to restore disputed unsourced content despite a previous block for the same behaviour. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.
If you believe that there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Ponyobons mots 21:21, 9 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Brother. You are a cunt Brendan Peace (talk) 00:10, 10 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I source my shit. and you undo it. Brendan Peace (talk) 00:13, 10 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Another thing. Multiple MOH recipients pages use photos of their uniforms as source for their medals and those are allowed. Brendan Peace (talk) 12:41, 10 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Robert S. Scott

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File:Robert S. Scott.webp
Image FROM the article
Edit made

Theoretically Speaking. Lets say someone didn't trust me on my sourcing, they have many ways to independently verify its accuracy.

#1 Visual Confirmation

One way is to look at the image and visually confirm that the ribbons in the infobox match the ones in the image

#2 Cross checking to confirm

If they still don't believe this as a fact, they can check the text box which provide links to those medals Wikipedia pages, where they can verify that a Purple Heart, does in fact, look like a Purple Heart

For Medals that may have been awarded retroactively, I always note that as such. For example, the Korean War Service Medal was only authorized for wear on U.S Military Uniform in 2004 and as such, may not be seen in the original photos. The Wikipedia article for those ribbons note that.

Brendan Peace (talk) 14:56, 10 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

If you want the source for the image
https://www.cmohs.org/recipients/robert-s-scott Brendan Peace (talk) 15:00, 10 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]


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Valid edits

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The merits of your edits are not the issue, but your behavior. Your particularly vulgar personal attacks are enough for me to decline your request. Even leaving that aside, your edit warring is unacceptable and you don't convince me that you will do anything differently. I could use AI to create a picture of myself wearing a military uniform with all sorts of medals, that is not evidence that I received those medals or even actually served in the military. Your original research is unacceptable. If other articles do this(which is not acceptable as an argument, we judge each article on their own merits) once unblocked please tell us what those are so we can take action. 331dot (talk) 19:41, 10 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]


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See above for my argument

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