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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. Track your hook after promotion. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected, closed by Narutolovehinata5 (talk) 01:54, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

Nikolai Chernyshev

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Captured V-2 rocket
Captured V-2 rocket
Created by RabidTuberculosis (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

RabidTuberculosis (talk) 17:49, 28 April 2026 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - The ALT0 hook about Chernyshev's name and work not being known until after the Cold War has a source, but the page that is linked in the source has the only mention of Chernyshev and I don't see any mention in that source about his name/work not being known until later in that source, nor could I find it anywhere else in a Google search. ALT2, about leading the capture of V-2 rockets in Germany, doesn't seem to be mentioned anywhere in the article. ALT1 seems to be mentioned, but the source seems to be unavailable and I would have to accept the sourcing for that hook as is in good faith based on the book listed.
  • Interesting: Yes
QPQ: None required.

Overall: I would like to hear about all of the hooks and understand the issues before proceeding. Alansohn (talk) 20:37, 26 May 2026 (UTC)

@Alansohn: This needs a change in icon since you aren't rejecting the nomination. It should be either or . Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:22, 27 May 2026 (UTC)
Narutolovehinata5, fair enough, but the underlying issues with the hooks raise issues across the article itself and the DYK nomination. I will adjust accordingly. Alansohn (talk) 15:28, 27 May 2026 (UTC)
Alansohn Thanks for your review! It looks like ALT0 used a Russian language source that is not published online (to my knowledge) but attributed on the Russian language article. I've removed it and rewritten the ALT0 and ALT1 hooks with publicly accessible English-language sources. ALT2 is mentioned in the article under the "World War II combat" section and validated by reliable sources regarding the context of his work at Soviet rocketry laboratories (GDL, RNII, etc.) RabidTuberculosis (talk) 01:51, 28 May 2026 (UTC)
RabidTuberculosis, thanks for making the changes and responding. I will update my comments, as soon as possible. Alansohn (talk) 01:53, 28 May 2026 (UTC)
ALT1 meets all the qualificiations in terms of hook interest, length and support.
There are issues with the other hooks. The new ALT0 hook isn't rather interesting and I'm not sure that I see the hook supported in the source, but finding that shouldn't be hard. No matter how many times I've read the article, I don't see ALT2 mentioned; yes, he was in Germany at the end of the war and he did work on captured V-2 rockets, but I don't see a statement that he led the capture of the rockets. Once the material is clearly in the article, there is a source that could be accepted in good faith and ALT2 might be more interesting.
As we have a viable ALT1 and as the other hooks could be worked on while the nomination percolates through the system, I will mark it as ready to go. Alansohn (talk) 11:52, 28 May 2026 (UTC)
@RabidTuberculosis: Article has a {{citation needed}} tag that needs to be resolved before this can be promoted. Cielquiparle (talk) 23:18, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
A review of sources finds several sources that fail verification. For example:
  • A year after the war's end, Chernyshev was appointed head of the RNII's department of liquid fueled anti-aircraft projectiles by the USSR Ministry of Defence in November 1946. He and Mikhail Tikhonravov began developing the VR-190, nicknamed the Vysotnaya Raketa (High-Altitude Rocket), soon after. The VR-190 program was the USSR's first formal proposal for suborbital human spaceflight, envisaging two pilots reaching an altitude of 190–200 km aboard a modified German V-2-derived vehicle. The project introduced several concepts that would later become standard in spaceflight, including a parachute descent system, retropropulsive landing for soft touchdown, a sealed crew cabin with a life-support system, and attitude control using low-thrust nozzles. The proposal was positively received by the Soviet aviation ministry and reportedly by Stalin himself, and was presented to the Soviet Academy of Sciences in early 1946.... In 1952, he formulated solutions to problems of air defense over the Soviet Union's territory. He also played an active role in founding the rocket engineering faculty at Bauman Moscow State Technical University, delivering lecture courses there and at the Mendeleev Institute.... He held 16 patents. Not a single claim in these sentences is supported by the source.
  • After graduating, Chernyshev was assigned to the Goznak printing factory in Leningrad before being called up for active military service. He joined the Gas Dynamics Laboratory, the first Soviet research organization dedicated to rocket technology, as a senior engineer in 1933.... From August 1936 to April 1938, he headed the test station at KB-7, conducting bench tests of liquid propellant rocket engines (LREs) and overseeing flight testing of rockets.... In October 1942, he was recalled from the front and appointed head of the chemical laboratory at the Reactive Scientific Research Institute (RNII) by the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR. Chernyshev is mentioned briefly on page 102 of the source and not a single claim cited to this source is supported by it.
  • There, he contributed to the development of the OR-2 [ru] engine, intended for a piloted rocket-powered aircraft, and the 12K engine designed for Sergei Korolev's cruise missiles. He also helped to establish the motor laboratory. Not a single claim here is supported by the sole reference to Chernyshev on page 283 of the source.
  • He was buried at Vagankovo Cemetery. Not supported by the source.
The nominator has been studiously avoiding conversations about source/text integrity issues discovered in other articles at Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#Problematic_references_in_multiple_DYK_nominations_by_same_nominator and Wikipedia_talk:Good_article_nominations#Nominations_of_RabidTuberculosis. Given the extent of problems found in other nominations, the fact that the nominator has not taken action to fix them, and that fact that many, many passages of this one fail verification, I am going to revoke approval and mark for closure. Dclemens1971 (talk) 01:10, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
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