Talk:Yogurt

The content of Oxygala was merged into Yogurt on 4 August 2025. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists. For the discussion at that location, see its talk page.

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RM #1, Yoghurt Yoghurt -> Yogurt, Abandoned discussion; no consensus, 12 May 2005, Talk:Yogurt/Archive 1#Requested move
RM #2, Yoghurt Yoghurt -> Yogurt, Move to Yogurt, 10 October 2006, Talk:Yogurt/Archive 2#"buttermilk" as yogurt?
RM #3, Yoghurt Yoghurt -> Yogurt Revisited, no consensus, defaulting to keep at Yoghurt., 26 October 2006, Talk:Yogurt/Archive 2#Requested move revisited
RM #4, Yoghurt Yoghurt -> Yogurt , No consensus, 21 May 2007, Talk:Yogurt/Archive 3#Naming poll
RM #5, Yoghurt Yoghurt -> Yogurt , "Not enough consensus"; page not moved, 21 June 2009, Talk:Yogurt/Archive 5#Requested move
RM #6, Yoghurt Yoghurt -> Yogurt , Delisted, 6 July 2009, Talk:Yogurt/Archive 5#No Consensus
RM #7, Yoghurt Yoghurt -> Yogurt, No consensus, 27 October 2011, Talk:Yogurt/Archive 5#Move page to Yogurt
RM #8, Yoghurt Yoghurt -> Yogurt, Moved, 10 December 2011, Talk:Yogurt/Archive 6#Move page to yogurt

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Nathan Yau (June 26, 2024). "Decade-Long Battle for "Yogurt" vs. "Yoghurt" on Wikipedia". FlowingData. Retrieved June 26, 2024. In 2002, a Wikipedia article for yogurt was created. Debates ensued.
"The Depths of Wikipedians". Asterisk Magazine. November 1, 2024. Retrieved December 11, 2024. Take the page for yogurt. The debate over whether to call it "yogurt" or "yoghurt" lasted seven years and totaled over 140,000 words. What happened there specifically, and what makes the process so inefficient in general?
Margi Murphy (March 7, 2025). "Wikipedia Roiled With Internal Strife Over Page Edits About the Middle East". Bloomberg News. Retrieved March 7, 2025. Conflicts among Wikipedia's 265,000 volunteer editors are inevitable -- "edit wars" have emerged over everything from the spelling of yogurt to the definition of an economic recession.

Oxygala is a type of curd and has no direct connection with the origins of yoghurt

The theory of 'oxygala is the origin of yoghurt' needs to be proven otherwise it distorts the flow of the article. The history section should start with the first written or historically valid arguments. There are many other curd types invented or discovered different parts of the world independently, however these either do not follow the same production steps with yoghurt or there is no information about the process at all. Oxygala mention should be moved to later stages in the article, and should not be the very first part of the history section unless it's clearly validated: "The cuisine of ancient Greece included a dairy product known as oxygala (οξύγαλα) which was a form of yogurt. Galen (AD 129 – c. 200/c. 216) mentioned that oxygala was consumed with honey, similar to the way thickened Greek yogurt is eaten today." 50kalibre (talk) 09:09, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Although I agree with you that the connection between oxygala and yogurt is not well-established, it is the position taken by multiple reliable sources cited in the article, which is what we have to rely on. If you can find RS which question this connection, we should add those to the article.

As for oxygala being a type of "curd", that word is itself rather ambiguous. It can mean cheese curd or even yogurt. --Macrakis (talk) 20:34, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oxygala is probably Teleme. Yogurt is not consumed with honey but teleme is consumed with honey. Teleme is made with the help of figs which is native to the Medditerian sea regions. 84.40.106.211 (talk) 13:39, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Citation needed for cows milk claim

In the opening paragraph, there is a claim that yogurt is most commonly made with cow's milk. This may be true, but this may also be a western perspective that is not true worldwide. It would be good to either verify the claim that cow's milk is indeed the most common source of yogurt, or to remove the claim. PeppersGhostRealm (talk) 15:41, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Spelling

Yogurt/yoghurt could be mentioned in the summary at top of page?? 109.78.74.143 (talk) 10:40, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Grammar issues in History section:

Suggest change "Francis I suffered from a severe diarrhea which no French doctor could cure." to "Francis I suffered severe diarrhea that no French doctor could cure." or "suffered a bout of severe diarrhea".

Also no citation for "The grateful king told many of the food that had cured him." This sentence also possibly not appropriate for a wiki, maybe should be "according to the account" or something like that? Up to you. Nanizet (talk) 00:12, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Partly done: I removed the entire paragraph, as the only sources cited were an encyclopedia (a tertiary source) and a cookbook; not the kind of reliable scholarly sources we'd need for historical accounts like this. Day Creature (talk) 05:56, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"Yogut" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Yogut has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 April 11 § Yogut until a consensus is reached. I am bad at usernames (talk · contribs) 05:36, 11 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]