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I've removed the passages that are entirely synth on why American men are attracted to Asian women. There's no discussion in those sources of either the term tradwife or of the term traditional wife, and the paragraphs are not good summaries of what actually is in thesources.Golikom (talk) 03:42, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, you're either not reading the sources or you just WP:DONTLIKEIT. I'm leaning towards the latter.
From Chan (2015), p.29:
A large number of Asian women from poorer countries are imported either as domestic helpers or wives because of their supposed feminine qualities and submissive (Asian) femininity. A general perception of Asian brides is their docility and ability to take care of the young and the old in the family. Such feminine qualities are believed to have been lost among Western women as well as "liberated" Asian middle-class women. Thus, Asian women from less-developed places are taken and "promoted" as ideal marriage choices and docile bodies, who are more qualified carers since they have retained traditional femininity. Lauser (2008) has stressed that, while women from a more conservative and traditional society might find new life chances through the global marriage-scape, men in more modernised regions have turned to less developed societies to look for "traditional" wives who can perform traditional caring roles. Women from the Philippines are considered to be able to endure hardship and take good care of their husbands and mother- in-laws. They sacrifice their own wellbeing and get married abroad to men they hardly know. Thai women who have married German men to upgrade their families” economies offer another example of docile female bodies and souls who aspire to go abroad to perform the roles of submissive wives.
Continuing on p.30:
Some of them have ended up in brothels or have become sex workers to support their German husbands (Mix and Piper 2003). Thus, a large number of Asian women migrants through marriage are taken as docile Asian females whose roles other well-off Asian women or Western women have refused to play. Because of these supposed Asian female characteristics, there has been a “continuum” of women’s migration experiences from wife to worker, or vice versa. Some who migrate as workers (either for domestic work or sex work) may make use of international marriage as a strategy to escape from low-status jobs and to obtain long-term citizenship in the hosting country. Pe-Pua (2003) finds that migrant women from developing countries often shift their roles between low-skilled factory worker, maid, and wife, all of which are conventional feminine roles.
On Wikipedia we get consensus for sweeping deletions of reliablly sourced material. This content is in fact highly relevant to the article, does mention traditional wives, and should not have been removed, whether you have the ability to recognize that or not. - 2600:100C:B03C:17FE:84F:5D58:BE3D:9CFC (talk) 18:47, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, Golikom has yet again awkwardly removed this material without consensus, giving the following edit summary:
All aymth. this is about the men and not the tradwife phenomenon
@Golikom: You need to learn what WP:SYNTH is. Synthesis is when we combine two (or more) references to make a claim that isn't supported by either source. At tradwife, the content you're removing is two separate claims supported by both sources: that men seeking tradwives prefer Asian women, and that there is a cultural phenomenon of White American men viewing Asian women as ideal wives, for their femininity and submissiveness, which is perceived as superior to that of white women's. This is highly relevant to the tradwife phenomenon, which isn't just about tradwives, but the men who seek and endorse this type of woman.
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the 2nd paragraph : "Tradwife aesthetics have been associated with far-right politics,[2] " links to "far-right politics" with an image of a NAZI flag. The reference [2] has no evidence that this lifestyle is related to NAZIs. If those promoting being a "Tradwife" are NAZIs - fine - provide the evidence, otherwise it is option of someone that doesn't like the idea of what "Tradwife" represents.
It is offensive as I came to learn what a Tradwife is - and withing seconds I'm being told it is related to "far right politics" and being a NAZI. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ~2026-20885-46 (talk) 02:41, 5 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]
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The redirect Traditional wife has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 November 8 § Traditional wife until a consensus is reached. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 20:55, 8 November 2025 (UTC)