Talk:Sweeter than Fiction

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Review: January 1, 2026. (Reviewed version).

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Official cover

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Official cover on iTunes. Here is a small version of it.

Not done: {{edit semi-protected}} is not required for edits to semi-protected, unprotected pages, or pending changes protected pages. Thanks, Celestra (talk) 19:15, 5 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Done by Nahnah4 @ 03:59, 22 November 2013. 184.58.24.163 (talk) 11:07, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

UK Chart Position

The article currently says it was 25 and the reference isn't helpful. According to the official charts site, it reached 45 (http://www.officialcharts.com/artist/5387/taylor-swift/). Unless someone can find a source that says it did reach 25, I will change the position to 45 and put in my reference.

Edit made. ▲RedScrees (talk) 21:31, 5 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

GA review

Passed. λ NegativeMP1 16:59, 1 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:Sweeter than Fiction/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Ippantekina (talk · contribs) and Medxvo (talk · contribs) 14:54, 11 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: NegativeMP1 (talk · contribs) 00:03, 28 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, me again, I'll be reviewing this one. Expect a decently fast turnaround with this one—I'm already going through the prose. λ NegativeMP1 00:03, 28 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Prose

"she re-recorded the song as "Sweeter than Fiction (Taylor's Version)" and included it in the physical Tangerine Edition of 1989 (Taylor's Version) (2023)" so was it exclusive to this specific version? Might help to add "exclusive" to make that more clear. The part of the main body that covers this detail is fine though
"Swift performed "Sweeter than Fiction" live for the first time, in a mashup with "Holy Ground", at the Eras Tour concert on July 6, 2024, in Amsterdam" Personally, I'm iffy on if I'd consider a mashup to be a true, full performance of a song. I would personally reword this. However, I know other Swift articles count the mashups anyways, so your call.
"Sheffield and Vulture's Nate Jones ranked it among the lower-tier of rankings of Swift's entire catalog" I think the spots where this song ranked should be specified.
- Also consider incorporating NME's ranking spot into the prose if this is done
The article is missing a Personnel section.

Media

There's only one file in this article, and it's the cover art which is justified. Although two things:
- Is there a photo of Swift performing the mash-up on the Eras Tour?
- Is there any potential for an audio sample to be added to the article? I think it'd help improve a readers understanding of the song but I'm not sure if there's a WP:FAIRUSE case or not. Again, your call.

Sourcing

All sources currently in the article are reliable.
Spotchecked specific uses of references #3, as well as #23 and #25. No issues.

Round #2

Based on article additions made by Medxvo after the above were posted and addressed.

I'm 50/50 on if two infoboxes are needed. I know some of the re-recorded songs do, but I recall that being mainly when the re-recording gets a dedicated section. Since y'all are definitely more familiarized with Swift article norms than I am, what's the standard on this?
- Not sure if there is a standard, but for Swift's re-recorded "Taylor's Version" songs there are almost always a second infobox to display information such as different producers, studios etc. I initially removed the "Taylor's Version" for this song because the re-recording did not chart at all, but I'm 50/50 too. Ippantekina (talk) 02:45, 1 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
- I think almost all of Swift's articles have a second infobox for the re-recording, so readers may find it confusing that this article lacks one. The albums, release dates, and studios are also different. Medxvo (talk) 08:05, 1 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
  - Understood. λ NegativeMP1 16:58, 1 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
"Critics compared "Sweeter than Fiction" to the music of the Bangles, the Go-Go's, the Killers, Tom Petty, and Twin Shadow." Critics, to me, implies that multiple critics compared to the song to works by these bands, when it was only one for the first two and a separate one for the last three I would personally just name the critics that made these comparisons.
- Done. Ippantekina (talk) 02:51, 1 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I've never seen a review box included on articles for individual songs or singles, not even on Swift's most popular singles. Is there a music editing guideline about this?
- No strict guideline, although I personally am not a fan of including review boxes for songs. But if there is a strong case for inclusion, why not? Maybe we can hear more from Medxvo; I don't have strong opinions about this. Ippantekina (talk) 02:45, 1 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
- {{Music ratings}} says that it can also be used for song articles. I think it is useful here since we have three reviews. (Mine (Taylor Swift song) also has a review box). Medxvo (talk) 08:05, 1 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
  - Well, I guess considering that this was a standalone single release not tied to an album and there's enough reviews... fair enough. λ NegativeMP1 16:58, 1 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
No questioning about the new sources added, although I wonder if Sheffield's original review comments should be put in here.
- Added. Ippantekina (talk) 02:51, 1 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Checked two more sources to compensate for the expansion, #4 and #12. No issues found.
The new sample added to the article has a proper fair use rationale and seems appropriate.

Final comments

As always, great work with this one! I don't have many complaints. I'll be placing this on hold to give you time to address my above comments. λ NegativeMP1 00:37, 28 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review! I'll have limited internet access in the next 3 days so pls wait till I come back and I’ll address all comments then :) Cheers, Ippantekina (talk) 02:44, 29 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No worries! Take all the time you need. λ NegativeMP1 03:07, 29 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@NegativeMP1: thanks for your patience, I've addressed all prose points you have. I don't think the sample is necessary, and I am unable to find personnel credits even on Apple Music... Ippantekina (talk) 11:13, 31 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi guys, I just noticed that this article is at GAN and thought I should add some stuff that I wrote months ago. Thought I should let you know in case NegativeMP1 has additional comments regarding my additions (feel free to ping me if so). Happy New Year's Eve! Medxvo (talk) 16:08, 31 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Okay these seem like decently substantial upgrades (or maybe the infobox pushed some stuff to make it seem bigger). I'll look shortly. λ NegativeMP1 16:47, 31 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Update: I also added a sample because I think we have enough information regarding the song's composition and that it would be helpful for readers. Thanks, NegativeMP1! Medxvo (talk) 17:12, 31 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Did a quick round two of comments based on Medxvo's additions. Sorry for the mild wait all day, New Year's stuff. @Ippantekina and Medxvo:, see above. λ NegativeMP1 02:41, 1 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks NegativeMP1, Happy New Year! Medxvo (talk) 08:05, 1 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, it seems everything I put above has been addressed and I don't think there's any remaining issues left with this article, I'll be passing this, good job to the both you!

λ NegativeMP1 16:59, 1 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Wrong lyrics quoted

The lyrics quoted for the chorus are not correct, the official lyrics (at least as they are inside the tangerine vinyl) are "there you'll stand" not "then you stand". I'm having a hard time finding a source that quotes them correctly, and am not sure if just sourcing the album, like you would when you cite liner notes, would constitute original research or not. DavidL87 (talk) 02:44, 2 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]