Talk:Schwedentrunk
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[edit]It is translated correctly, but the casualties were not 60% of the German population. It just appeared, that in some very war ridden locations the population declined so much. Quoting the article about the 30 Years War: The mortality rate was perhaps closer to 15 to 20 percent, with deaths due to armed conflict, famine and disease. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wandalstouring (talk • contribs) 11:42, June 9, 2006 (UTC)
This article seems to be about a diorama involving the Swedish drink: http://web.archive.org/web/20110508014818/http://www.badische-zeitung.de/schopfheim/alter-schwede--43284667.html WhisperToMe (talk) 05:47, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
"Knecht" as soldier in "Den Knecht legten sie gebunden auf die Erd..." is a wrong translation. "Knecht" can also mean "soldier" (indeed "knight" is sometimes traced back to it), but more commonly it describes a male farm hand or servant (the "Magd" would be the female counterpart). The passage in "Simplicissimus" actually describes a raid by troops (confusingly also called "landsknechts") on the inhabitants of a farm. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:810B:F40:3B48:8415:2BC1:3973:BD39 (talk) 20:04, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
No sources: perhaps delete or draft?
[edit]This allegedly historical article seems to rely entirely on a single source, which is apparently a single mention in a fictional, "satirical" (to quote our page) German novel. Wikipedia pages can sometimes fall short of the ideal gold-standard of citation, but this is extremely bad. Not only do the citations not establish notability, I don't think they even establish that this existed anywhere outside a detail a novelist made up once. I checked around a bit for sources (Google scholar, Google web search) and couldn't find anything about this at all from an RS. (Perhaps this would be different if I spoke German, which I do not.) The picture we use on this page isn't even of the page subject; it's of water cure (torture) instead. Unless someone can find substantial sources for this, which may be possible, I think we should just delete the page. I'm not very familiar with the Wikipedia draft process, but since the page is relatively well written perhaps instead of deleting it we could move it to the draft namespace. (I don't think I would be able to contribute to improving such a draft, but others might be interested in doing so.) Dingolover6969 (talk) 06:43, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Having reflected on it further, I think the chances of ever establishing notability for this page are dismal. We might be able to find a handful of other mentions of the term (possibly all deriving from the usage in the novel), but I think they're all going to be "Bill Clinton played in a high school band called Three Blind Mice" type mentions. I'm just going to WP:PROD the page. Dingolover6969 (talk) 23:54, 21 January 2026 (UTC)