Talk:Sauroniops

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Keeping in mind that the type specimen of Sauroniops pachytholus was first described in the article published in Acta Palaeontologica Polonica and that APP articles are distributed under the terms of CC BY, I have a question: would this be alright to upload the figures used in the aforementioned APP article to Wikimedia Commons and use them to illustrate the article?--Macrochelys (talk) 18:34, 20 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I see you have in fact uploaded an image. Are you sure the licence also covers the images?--MWAK (talk) 06:17, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I assume that the license covers the entirety of the content of the article unless specified otherwise. --Macrochelys (talk) 07:51, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It does, I have contacted their editors, they say everything is free, unless otherwise indicated. And the license change (in 2012) is retroactive, so it covers older issues as well. As a result, I've uploaded quite a lot of their images since. FunkMonk (talk) 09:08, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Very good news indeed :o).--MWAK (talk) 11:38, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Should this page and Sigilmassasaurus be merged?

just to wonder if the 2020 paper says Sauroniops and Sigilmassasaurus are formal synonym? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.237.203.92 (talk) 13:32, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No, there are just different teams with different views, and it is unlikely to be sorted out any time soon. FunkMonk (talk) 13:34, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Also it was Carcharodontosaurus saharicus that they synonymized it with, not Sigilmassasaurus, so in any case it would be merged there. But as FunkMonk stated, there's not enough consensus for that. ▼PσlєοGєєк ƧɊƲΔƦΣƉ▼ 13:58, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, Sigilmassasaurus was suggested yo be a synonym of Spinosaurus, but this argument has been going on since the 90s. I don't think it'll be solved until we get much more complete remains. FunkMonk (talk) 14:09, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Today, the validity of Sauroniops are in debate, some suggesting It's as own genus, other synonym of Carcharodontosaurus^[1] (in some Wikis, "C." pachytholus or simple as junior synonym of C. saharicus, the type and probably only species).^{[citation needed]}

Note: C. iguidensis probably not belongs to the same genus second a recently studies.^[2]

=== References ===

^ Ibrahim, Nizar; Sereno, Paul C.; Varricchio, David J.; Martill, David M.; Dutheil, Didier B.; Unwin, David M.; Baidder, Lahssen; Larsson, Hans C. E.; Zouhri, Samir; Kaoukaya, Abdelhadi (21 April 2020). "Geology and paleontology of the Upper Cretaceous Kem Kem Group of eastern Morocco". ZooKeys (928): 1–216. Bibcode:2020ZooK..928....1I. doi:10.3897/zookeys.928.47517. ISSN 1313-2970. PMC 7188693. PMID 32362741.
^ Cau, Andrea; Paterna, Alessandro (May 2025). "Beyond the Stromer's Riddle: the impact of lumping and splitting hypotheses on the systematics of the giant predatory dinosaurs from northern Africa". Italian Journal of Geosciences. 144 (2): 162–185. doi:10.3301/IJG.2025.10. Archived from the original on May 14, 2025. Retrieved May 10, 2025.

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[1] Ibrahim, Nizar; Sereno, Paul C.; Varricchio, David J.; Martill, David M.; Dutheil, Didier B.; Unwin, David M.; Baidder, Lahssen; Larsson, Hans C. E.; Zouhri, Samir; Kaoukaya, Abdelhadi (21 April 2020). "Geology and paleontology of the Upper Cretaceous Kem Kem Group of eastern Morocco". ZooKeys (928): 1–216. Bibcode:2020ZooK..928....1I. doi:10.3897/zookeys.928.47517. ISSN 1313-2970. PMC 7188693. PMID 32362741.

[Cau&Paterna25-2] Cau, Andrea; Paterna, Alessandro (May 2025). "Beyond the Stromer's Riddle: the impact of lumping and splitting hypotheses on the systematics of the giant predatory dinosaurs from northern Africa". Italian Journal of Geosciences. 144 (2): 162–185. doi:10.3301/IJG.2025.10. Archived from the original on May 14, 2025. Retrieved May 10, 2025.

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