Talk:Miles Caton
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Did you know nomination
[edit]- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: rejected by reviewer, closed by Launchballer talk 03:14, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
- ... that when he was five, Miles Caton "belted out a Sam Cooke tune" at the Lakeview, New York branch of the NAACP's 24th Annual Freedom Fund Awards Gala?
- ALT1: ... that when he was twelve, Miles Caton's performance on Little Big Shots was singled out as "the one act the audience will never forget"? Source: "the one act the audience will never forget is 12-year-old gospel singer Miles Caton."
- ALT2: ... that Miles Caton learned how to play blues guitar in two months for his starring role in Sinners? Source: "We had two months for me to prepare."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Vincent de Groof
- Comment: There were quite a few sources to pick from for this nomination; I could use another if necessary or desired.
CJ-Moki (talk) 06:14, 25 April 2025 (UTC).
- I did some minor cleanup of the article, mostly around quotations. I left an inline {{buzzword inline}} tag at "long-anticipated". We really shouldn't say thing like that in Wikipedia's voice. I would suggest removing it, or alternatively attributing it with something like "which according to Zach Simmons was long anticipated". Review to be forthcoming. – Reidgreg (talk) 16:18, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
Query: Article is new enough (nominated four days after expansion from redirect), long enough, well sourced, and presentable. No neutrality, BLP or copyvio issues detected (Earwig for quotations and reference titles which get flagged from the extant reference style). No images and QPQ verified. The quote "belted out a Sam Cooke tune" from ALT0 is not in the article. Otherwise, each hook fact (0–2) is cited in article. AGF for ALT0. ALT1 checks. The ALT2 fact is from an interview and seems acceptable (DYK does not specifically require secondary sources, but as you commented that there are multiple sources for the nom it might be good to add cite an additional source there). Hooks are under the maximum length but ALT0 and ALT1 could be made more concise. – Reidgreg (talk) 19:29, 25 May 2025 (UTC)- In ALT0, maybe it could lose some specificity to keep the hook short and punchy: ...that when he was five, Miles Caton sang a Sam Cook song at a local NAACP branch's annual Freedom Fund Awards Gala? In ALT1,
performance ... was singled out
and the quote partthe one act
are redundant; they say the same thing. Suggest changing: was singled out as → was called. – Reidgreg (talk) 19:29, 25 May 2025 (UTC)- @Reidgreg: Thank you for responding to this nom. I have made the requested buzzword edit. Here are alternatives to ALT0 and ALT1:
- ALT0a: ... that when he was five, Miles Caton sang a Sam Cooke song at a local NAACP branch's Annual Freedom Fund Awards Gala? Source: "Five-year-old Miles Caton belted out a Sam Cooke tune."
- ALT1a: ... that when he was twelve, Miles Caton's performance on Little Big Shots was called "the one act the audience will never forget"? Source: "the one act the audience will never forget is 12-year-old gospel singer Miles Caton."
- CJ-Moki (talk) 02:03, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
Approve ALT0a, ALT1a, ALT2 – Reidgreg (talk) 22:33, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
- Could we add that Caton was in Sinners, for readers who know the movie but not his name? Something like "Sinners actor Miles Caton..."? I mean this for ALT0a primarily, but I'm still a little on the fence about whether I want to promote it. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 09:00, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Reidgreg: Thank you for responding to this nom. I have made the requested buzzword edit. Here are alternatives to ALT0 and ALT1:
@CJ-Moki, Reidgreg, and Theleekycauldron: I promoted ALT0, but as @AirshipJungleman29: raised a good point about DYKINT (it's only interesting if you know what the NAACP is) and neither of the other hooks meet that (ALT1 is 'reviewer says something' and ALT2 is too self-serving to take Caton at his word), this needs a new hook.--Launchballer 12:23, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
- Does that make it intriguing? (The int in WP:DYKINT). – Reidgreg (talk) 15:37, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- Not really; I have no knowledge of who Sam Cooke is, what importance Lakeview, New York has, or what the NAACP is, so how could I be intrigued? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:06, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
Marking for closure per above. SL93 (talk) 02:42, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
- Not really; I have no knowledge of who Sam Cooke is, what importance Lakeview, New York has, or what the NAACP is, so how could I be intrigued? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:06, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
Birthdate
[edit]I didn't see the birthdate given in Jenkins. Could you please check this? – Reidgreg (talk) 22:30, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion
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Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. —Community Tech bot (talk) 05:07, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
Mother and Aunt reputation
[edit]article stated that Caton's mother and aunt are "renowned" gospel singers, but the two cited sources didn't really back that up. "Renowned" is a strong word. One article in Essence did refer to his mother as "great" and "renowned" for her singing -- supporting other artists' recordings. And the writer expresses great enthusiasm for some of their appearances or appearances in recordings. But other than that single article, I could find almost nothing about either of them online that didn't come either from themselves or close associates. So I changed article to say that they are "successful". If somebody has more documentation of high regard in which they are held by others, then I hope they will edit this article to change the wording appropriately and add those additional references in. I will add that his mother is a pastor.
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