Talk:Grand Slam (rugby union)
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[edit]Why is the Grand Slam not possible when France weren't taking part? According to the description, the title is according when a team beats all other teams - that's possible no matter how many other teams are playing, surely...?
Huga 08:50, 9th July 2007
- It is but back then it was called the "Triple Crown".GordyB 09:41, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
Changes
[edit]I took out a load of stuff about NZ in 2005 as it was irrelevent on a page purporting to be about the Rugby Grand Slam. 88.105.117.122 22:57, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
And I also added the French name for it - Le Grand Schlem 88.105.117.122 23:00, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
Ireland is a home nation
[edit]This is a sports term, it has never been used as a political term. Even the Irish media and the IRFU use it with regard to the Irish rugby union team. Will people stop vandalising pages containing the term?GordyB 13:12, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
- Reference http://www.irishrugby.ie/6855_5128.php —The preceding unsigned comment was added by GordyB (talk • contribs) 16:04, 21 February 2007 (UTC).
- "it has never been used as a political term" - if it sounds political, looks political and is used in a political fashion, I suspect that's good evidence that it is, ergo, political! --MacRusgail (talk) 14:59, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
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[edit]Is it really necessary to have every year where it was not achieved listed separately? Why can't we just do what we do with the wars etc. and just say something like "1958-67: Not achieved"? It would save a lot of time browsing down the page. Ygoloxelfer 15:53, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
- Amended accordingly.GordyB 16:35, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
Grand Slam Tours
[edit]ENGLAND ONLY
- New Zealand 1905, 1925, 1936, 1954, 1964, 1967, 1973
- Australia 1909, 1928, 1948, 1958, 1967, 1973, 1976
- South Africa 1906, 1913, 1932, 1952, 1969 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.32.154.250 (talk) 20:44, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
- What on earth? How do you get a grand slam tour of just England?GordyB (talk) 23:35, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
- That was quickly edited.:) NB a team cannot achieve a grand slam tour of Europe unless they defeat, Ireland, Italy, France, England, Scotland, Wales, this feat must be achieved on one tour. The concept of a grand slam tour is worth debate!
- Not, it isn't. The "grand slam" is defined in the article's sources as the four home nations adding France and Italy is original research.GordyB (talk) 14:47, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
- Which of the article's sources? jnestorius(talk) 00:02, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
- Not, it isn't. The "grand slam" is defined in the article's sources as the four home nations adding France and Italy is original research.GordyB (talk) 14:47, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
- That was quickly edited.:) NB a team cannot achieve a grand slam tour of Europe unless they defeat, Ireland, Italy, France, England, Scotland, Wales, this feat must be achieved on one tour. The concept of a grand slam tour is worth debate!
The Grand Slam tours article
[edit]There is an article called Grand Slam tours. Do we need to duplicate the information in this one?--Victor Yus (talk) 08:33, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
- In my opinion, Grand Slam tours should be merged into this article and then deleted. It is confusing having both. I agree with your earlier comments too, esp. the hidden part. Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 11:18, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
- Good idea. I made a note on the talk page of the tours article.--Victor Yus (talk) 12:37, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
- Excellent. I have registered my support there. Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 13:10, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
Merge
[edit](from the Grand Slam tours talk page)
Proposed to merge this article into the article Grand Slam (rugby union), which already covers this topic. Please see the other article's talk page.--Victor Yus (talk) 12:35, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
I support this merging- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 13:14, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
- I've done this.--Victor Yus (talk) 08:30, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
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Argentina
[edit]Presumably a grand slam tour could be won by any touring team that wins all four matches against the Home Nations. The only other contender at the moment might be Argentina. But, the point I am making is I that think the section would be improved if it indicated that this is not the exclusive to NZ, AU and ZA, its just that to date only those teams have had the ability to win a Grand Slam Tour. -- PBS (talk) 17:43, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
Won Grand Slams
[edit]| Nation | Grand Slams | Home Grand Slams | Away Grand Slams | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 13 | (7) | 1913 London (Twickenham) 1924 London (Twickenham) 1928 London (Twickenham) 1957 London (Twickenham) 1991 London (Twickenham) 1992 London (Twickenham) 1995 London (Twickenham) |
(6) | 1914 Paris (Stade Colombes) 1921 Paris (Stade Colombes) 1923 Paris (Stade Colombes) 1980 Edinburgh (Murrayfield) 2003 Dublin (Lansdowne Road) 2016 Paris (Stade de France) | |
| 10 | (9) | 1911 Cardiff (Arms Park) 1950 Cardiff (Arms Park) 1952 Swansea (St. Helen's) 1976 Cardiff (Arms Park) 1978 Cardiff (Arms Park) 2005 Cardiff (Millennium Stadium) 2008 Cardiff (Millennium Stadium) 2012 Cardiff (Millennium Stadium) 2019 Cardiff (Millennium Stadium) |
(1) | 1971 Paris (Stade Colombes) | |
| 9 | (4) | 1997 Paris (Parc des Princes) 2002 Paris (Stade de France) 2004 Paris (Stade de France) 2010 Paris (Stade de France) |
(5) | 1968 Cardiff (Arms Park) 1977 Dublin (Lansdowne Road) 1981 London (Twickenham) 1987 Dublin (Lansdowne Road) 1998 London (Wembley Stadium) | |
| 3 | (1) | 1948 Belfast (Ravenhill) | (2) | 2009 Cardiff (Millennium Stadium) 2018 London (Twickenham) | |
| 3 | (3) | 1925 Edinburgh (Murrayfield) 1984 Edinburgh (Murrayfield) 1990 Edinburgh (Murrayfield) |
N/A | N/A | |
- 2022 Six Nations Championship France 25–13 England Stade de France, Paris
- 2023 Six Nations Championship Ireland 29–16 England Aviva Stadium, Dublin — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.147.218.65 (talk) 10:31, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
Lost Grand Slams
[edit]| Nation | Lost Grand Slams | Home Grand Slams | Away Grand Slams | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 8 | N/A | N/A | (8) | 1954 Paris (Stade Colombes) 1990 Edinburgh (Murrayfield) 1999 London (Wembley Stadium) 2000 Edinburgh (Murrayfield) 2001 Dublin (Lansdowne Road) 2011 Dublin (Aviva Stadium) 2013 Cardiff (Millennium Stadium) 2017 Dublin (Aviva Stadium) | |
| 5 | (1) | 2003 Dublin (Lansdowne Road) | (4) | 1926 Swansea (St. Helen's) 1951 Cardiff (Arms Park) 1969 Cardiff (Arms Park) 1982 Paris (Parc des Princes) | |
| 4 | (1) | 1955 Paris (Stade Colombes) | (3) | 1978 Cardiff (Arms Park) 1984 Edinburgh (Murrayfield) 1991 London (Twickenham) | |
| 4 | (2) | 1923 Edinburgh (Inverleith) 1996 Edinburgh (Murrayfield) |
(2) | 1920 London (Twickenham) 1995 London (Twickenham) | |
| 3 | (1) | 1988 Cardiff (Arms Park) | (2) | 1965 Paris (Stade Colombes) 1994 London (Twickenham) | |
- 2021 Six Nations Championship France 32-20 Wales Stade de France, Paris
