Talk:Ford ministry

Reference Removal

Under #List of Ministers, Past and Current, there is a reference for Kathleen Wynne's Legislative Assembly Page. It was added on December 31, removed the same day by me, and added again today. I believe the reference should be removed. Legend of 14 (talk) 05:57, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

I have found a better reference to cite that Doug Ford has become Premier. Legend of 14 (talk) 02:12, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Unused table item

Under #List of Ministers, Past and Current, there is a listing for Deputy House Leader in the Ford Ministry by Leadership Position table which is unused. It was added on December 31, removed the same day by me, and added again today. I believe the reference should be removed. Legend of 14 (talk) 05:59, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Requested move 2 June 2025

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jeffrey34555 (talk) 14:39, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

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• Ford ministry → Ford government (Ontario)Ford government (Ontario)
• Wynne ministry → Wynne government
• Eves ministry → Eves government
• Rae ministry → Rae government
• Peterson ministry → Peterson government
• Miller ministry (Ontario) → Miller government (Ontario)
• Davis ministry → Davis government
• Robarts ministry → Robarts government
• Frost ministry → Frost government
• Kennedy ministry → Kennedy government (Ontario)
• Drew ministry (Ontario) → Drew government
• Nixon ministry → Nixon government (Ontario)
• Conant ministry → Conant government
• Hepburn ministry → Hepburn government
• Henry ministry → Henry government
• Ferguson ministry → Ferguson government
• Drury ministry → Drury government
• Hearst ministry → Hearst government
• Whitney ministry → Whitney government
• Ross ministry → Ross government
• Hardy ministry → Hardy government
• Mowat ministry → Mowat government
• Blake ministry → Blake government
• John Sandfield Macdonald ministry → Macdonald government
• McGuinty ministry → McGuinty government

– I cannot find any sources, other than wikipedia forks, calling these topics by the name "ministry". All the sources I could find support the name government.[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11][12][13][14][15][16][17][18][19][20][21][22][23][24][25][26][27][28][29][30][31][32][33][34][35][36][37][38][39][40][41][42][43][44][45] Legend of 14 (talk) 00:13, 2 June 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. CNC (talk) 18:38, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

Support per nom Easternsahara (talk) 23:33, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

• Comment Presumably Macdonald government also needs disambiguation due to Prime Minister John A. Macdonald? @Legend of 14: Could you review everything again to clear conflicts with other world leaders? -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 01:00, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

  Since there's no article called Macdonald government, and the term ministry is used federally, no disambiguation in the title is required. In these cases a hatnote is used. Legend of 14 (talk) 01:18, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

  Agreed with 14 Easternsahara (talk) 02:33, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

  A quick Google search of "macdonald government" does not suggest that the Ontario government is the primary topic. In fact, I think Macdonald government should redirect to Macdonald ministry (a disambiguation page), and Macdonald government (Ontario) can be listed there. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 03:20, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

Oppose The term Ministry is the acceptable term for the Cabinet/Executive Council of a province and is consistent with the federal use in articles (see 1st Canadian Ministry). It is also the common name for cabinets in the commonwealth nations (see Martin ministry (1870–1872) and Truss ministry). The term "government" creates confusion with "premiership" articles which are essentially about the actions of the executive during the term of the first minister (see Premiership of Doug Ford). Finally, these articles exist for every province (see Lougheed ministry and Eby ministry). If you wanted a truly accurate term it would be "NAME Executive Council", but I am sure there is no reference to this anywhere. Caddyshack01 (talk) 15:53, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

Oppose as above Easternsahara (talk) 16:14, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

Note: WikiProject Governments of Canada, Canadian Wikipedians' notice board, and WikiProject Ontario have been notified of this discussion. CNC (talk) 18:38, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

Oppose. "Government" is a bit of an annoying word in a Westminster system, because it can be used for three overlapping-but-distinct things: the bureaucratic apparatus of the state, the political party currently running it, and the executive council itself. These pages being named "ministry" is a way to clarify the scope: they cover the membership and formation of the executive council, rather than the political actions and decisions made (that's on pages like Premiership of Doug Ford). This is not, it should be clarified, some invention of Wikipedia; the Government of Canada uses the word "ministry" to refer to the Cabinet, current and historical, and you can find the same use in the BC Legislature's Library publications. (I can't find examples on an Ontario government website, unfortunately, but that's because Ontario's government websites are barebones when it comes to listing historical information. There isn't explicit use of "government" there, either. I don't think Ontario breaks from standard Canadian usage here.) — Kawnhr (talk) 17:20, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.