Talk:Drakengard
| Drakengard has been listed as one of the Video games good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it. Review: July 5, 2014. (Reviewed version). |
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| On 14 June 2026, it was proposed that this article be moved from Drakengard to Drakengard and Nier. The result of the discussion was no consensus. |
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[edit]Isn't there any kind of source that makes a statement about the general reception of the game/games such that the eight-ref-deep citations aren't necessary? It would make more sense to cite a definitive statement to that effect at that point. czar ♔ 02:25, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, no. And believe me, I tried to find one or more more than once. What's there is what I could find and what I could manage. --ProtoDrake (talk) 07:23, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Tezero (talk · contribs) 17:24, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
Hi. Tezero (talk) 17:24, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
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- Is Aussie Game Geek a reliable source?
- What about "発売日です" (Emi Nagashima)? (Add a publisher for that, too.)
- Shacknews?
- Inside Games?
- Geimin?
- "One of the running narrative themes for the main series is "Immorality"" - Are these scare quotes? If not, what does "Immorality" mean in this context?
- "The original game world was designed around Celtic and Norse myths, together with Japanese historical revisionism" - Japanese-style revisionism, or revisionism of Japanese history? Also, was it actually revisionist, or satirical of this procedure?
- "For Nier, two versions of the main protagonist were created: the older version of the character was created later in the game's development because the game's publishers felt it would appeal more to western players" - Did both versions appear in the final game à la Sonic Generations or Super Smash Bros. Melee (with Link)? If not, I'd prefer this be phrased as the protagonist simply changing designs, unless both versions were under consideration for the final product simultaneously.
- "The music of the series has become one of its more notable elements." - Says who?
Putting on hold. Tezero (talk) 00:07, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
- I've dealt with the Immorality quote, the music section, the piece about Nier's protagonist, added a publisher for the Emi Nagashima reference, deleted Aussie Game Geek and done my best with the piece from the Themes and Inspiration section. I checked Shacknews: it is both on the WikiProject Video games/Sources list as reliable, and the only place where that interview with Shiba can be found. Geimin is used on other GA-stasus articles from what I remember, was the only place I could find most of the sales data for the games. The Inside Games reference I took from the article for Nier, where it didn't seem to be raising any flags. --ProtoDrake (talk) 07:30, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
- I don't know how I could've missed Shacknews on that list... Anyway, whatever. Let's do this. Tezero (talk) 07:36, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
DoD 3's canon ending
[edit]We should remove the mention that Ending B is the ending that leads into the first game. If anything, Ending A leads into it more efficiently, as its events are what leads Male One to founding the Cult of the Watchers. Simply because pacts are not mentioned in that route does not mean that they were never created. However, keep in mind that, thanks to Accord, it's possible for multiple endings to be "canon" and lead into one fate. DoD2 stems from the first game's Ending A, but due to Seere's presence, it logically cannot have happened unless a non-canon path in the first game was followed. Even Nier has some inconsistencies, such as referring to Angelus as a read dragon despite the fact that she had evolved to her black chaos form in Ending E. I think it's simply better to leave it at the fact that DoD3 leads into the first game. 166.171.184.221 (talk) 01:08, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
- And on a side note, I think it would be worth noting that the cancelled Cavia game called Cry On was to be a sequel to the first game's Ending C. 166.171.184.221 (talk) 01:10, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
Remastered for PS3/PS Vita
[edit]It has been confirmed by SQEX Japan that there is no plan to release remastered versions of DOD1 or 2. I directly asked about the validity of this claim and here is their answer (my translation):
There has been no decision to release a remastered version of these games, nor is there any current information regarding a future release. Should news about a future release be announced, it will be posted on the official Web site.
Let's try to remember to only include confirmed information with proper citations on Wiki. drakengard-3.com (talk) 08:40, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
Chronology or timeline template?
[edit]Would it make sense to create a Drakengard/Nier timeline template? —017Bluefield (talk) 05:48, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
- Insanely late response. But I don't think so. Official timelines already exist and there's really no way to format it. For example, Drakengard 2 does NOT follow the first ending of Drakengard despite seeming so, and no ending of Drakengard 3 leads to the first game. The only seamless transition is Drakengard to NieR - which has two versions with different time periods, so that muddies things up further. 134340Goat (talk) 23:47, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
WTH is "fourth ending"?
[edit]As I understand WP articles should present information for people that could be completely unfamiliar to subject. Can "fourth ending of NieR" be expanded to something explaining what this ending is about in one-two sentences? Just "fourth ending" is zero information to anybody who didn't seen it already. --Rowaa[SR13] (talk) 21:37, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
- sound sensible to not put major spoilers on wikipedia. 81.96.113.140 (talk) 11:33, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
Requested move 14 June 2026
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Fortek67 (talk) 12:26, 21 June 2026 (UTC)
Drakengard → Drakengard and Nier – It is a well-known fact that Nier is far more widely-known than Drakengard in the modern day. This is coming from someone who loves Drakengard, even I can acknowledge this as a simple fact due to Nier Automata's smash hit success and the later popular remake of Nier Replicant. Simply lumping Nier under the Drakengard series is confusing for readers, and is similar to calling the Persona games the "Shin Megami Tensei" series when they have evolved far beyond that. Instead, the two names should be given equal billing. This would also imply changing Characters of the Drakengard series to Characters of Drakengard and Nier or List of Drakengard and Nier characters (a la List of Undertale and Deltarune characters). ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 14:26, 14 June 2026 (UTC)