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Hardshell pants? What to do
Hardshell pants? What to do

I have an upcoming beginner mountaineer course which requires me to buy hard-shell pants, they have recommended an expensive pair for around 400aud, reading posts and blogs about hard-shell pants I get the memo that everyone is saying to get a cheap pair because I will put holes in them from crampons doing self arrest and other exercises. I am fine getting a cheaper pair but the slight issue is that I will be going to Nepal for a few months later this year to start climbing intermediate mountains e.g. Island Peak, Lobuche East and possibly going for Ama Dablam. Do I get a cheap pair for my course here in Australia and then upgrade before I go to Nepal or should I get an expensive pair straight up and just try not to poke holes in them.

I know that I will rarely be using hard-shell pants in Nepal (excluding sitting around on snow and practice stuff) as climbing at that altitude there is likely not much soft snow and precipitation, but on the beginner course I will probably want to wear them while sliding around and constantly on the ground. I have the Rab Ascendor AS pants for my soft shell pants.

Any help and recommendations are appreciated


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Packing list?
Packing list?

Hi, i am going to the alps, to climb Breithorn next week. (With a guided group)
Am i missing anything here? Apart from some of the technical gear (which will be rented there)

Backpack
Fleece/mid-layer.
B2 Boots
Base layer
Down jacket
Outer gloves/gore-tex gloves.
2x Pair of liner gloves
Sleeping bag liner
2x Pair of hiking socks
Softshell pants
Shell jacket
Snow gaiters
Neck gaiter
Toothbrush, toothpaste and deodorant
Base layer pants
Extra pair of wool base layer pants
Harness, helmet, ice axe and crampons
Towel and mini soap
Extra neck gaiter
Medication
T-shirt
Shell pants
Sunscreen
Headlamp and batteries
Merino wool hat
First-aid kit.
Trekking poles
Nalgene bottle
Extra T-shirt
Ski goggles
Wet wipes
Blister plaster pack
Food and snacks
Water