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hi now days Nai is not caste this is just a profession which is easily adopted by the other caste also , so , no diff in them. They are just like other castes like rajput, chauhan and most of the thakur who had laeve their profession, not included in this castesian

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Nai caste (knows as Nai Brahmin)

According to the Sushruta Samhita, one of the world’s oldest and most respected surgical texts, the practice of surgery and healing was a skilled discipline that required sharp intellect, steady hands, and compassion. In ancient India, these medical responsibilities were not just theoretical—they were carried out by trained communities who practiced healing with dignity and service to society. They were the ancestors of the Nai caste held a respected role.

The Nai community, now known primarily for barbering, was once deeply involved in the field of Ayurveda, surgery, and traditional medicine. Our ancestors were healers, minor surgeons, wound-treaters, and ritual caretakers who worked closely in temples, villages, and battlefields. They performed procedures such as abscess draining, bloodletting, and suturing, and were trusted for their skill, hygiene, and devotion to wellness. These were not ordinary tasks—they were acts of science and service. When no hospitals existed, our ancestors were the first doctors for rural society. They knew how to mix herbs, treat pain, and purify wounds—not just with knowledge, but with honour. But today, many from our community have forgotten this proud legacy. Due to historical suppression and misrepresentation, our identity was reduced to mere barbering. But now, it’s time to reclaim what truly belongs to us—a history of dignity, wisdom, and service. Purnapasayat (talk) 04:41, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please share reliable and verifiable source for each and every statement; read WP:RS, WP:V! Please note that we don't accept original research; read WP:OR! Thanks. Ekdalian (talk) 13:05, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Request: Please replace the current infobox main image (the 1850s occupational photograph) with the public domain portrait of Bharat Ratna Karpoori Thakur.

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Reasoning based on WP:NPOV: The current 1850s colonial-era image reduces the entire modern demographic to a single historical occupational stereotype. Replacing it with a verified public domain portrait of a highly notable community member (a former Chief Minister and Bharat Ratna awardee) vastly improves the encyclopedic neutrality and contemporary accuracy of the article. It represents the community's modern political and social history rather than just a colonial-era depiction. Thank you for your help. Kapton podric (talk) 10:04, 14 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: your request appears to have been generated by a large language model. Day Creature (talk) 17:26, 14 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Requested Move to Sain (caste)

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The result of the move request was: Procedural close. Requested-move discussions in the WP:CT/CASTE contentious topic area are restricted to extended-confirmed users under WP:ARBECR, which does not include the requester. An extended-confirmed user can open a requested-move discussion if they wish to do so. (non-admin closure) Umby 🌕🐶 (talk) 11:11, 14 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Nai (caste) → Sain (caste)Sain (caste) – The current title is increasingly recognized as an outdated occupational label that carries derogatory connotations in modern contexts. The community predominantly identifies as "Sain" or "Sen" today. Furthermore, the Government of India's National Commission for Backward Classes (NCBC) officially recognizes the community under the nomenclature "Sain", "Sen", and "Savita" in the Central OBC lists for major states like Uttar Pradesh, Delhi, and Madhya Pradesh. Moving this page aligns with modern demographic reality, neutral point of view (WP:NPOV), and contemporary reliable sources that reflect this identity shift. Kapton podric (talk) 10:16, 14 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

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Nai /Sain caste ( commonly known as Thakur)

The Thakur (Nai/Sain) communities is far more than the narrow occupation label why which it is often portrayed today. Throughout history our ancestors were respected practitioners of traditional healthCare, Ayurveda, wounded treatment and community service. Their knowledge, discipline, and skilled hands made them indispensable to village life during an Era when modern hospitals and health care systems did not exist.

Members of the community assisted in healing, minor surgical procedures, preparation of herbal remedies, and the maintenance of public hygiene. Their work demanded precision, intelligence, patience and deep understanding of traditional medical practices. they were trusted by ordinary people, warriors, and local rulers alike, serving society which dedication and responsibility.

Many within the Nai/Sain also preserve tradition linking their heritage to ancient royal and warrior Lineages, and titles such as 'THAKUR' and 'SHARMA' continue to be used by many sections of the community in different regions. these traditions reflect a long- standing sense of dignity, leadership, and social contribution that remains and important part of community identity.

Reducing the Nai/Sain community only to barbering overlooks the breadth of its historical roles and contributions.Our legacy is one of service, knowledge,healing, and social responsibility. It is a heritage that deserves accurate representation, scholarly study and respectful recognition so that future generations may take pride in the achievements and contributions of their ancestors. Aditya Sharma121 (talk) 09:33, 16 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]