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I see TheRedPenOfDoom has marked Aki's age as unreliable since The Court of Appeal is cited. I understand it's a primary source and all that, but do we really have reason to doubt it? Other sources already used in the article cite an age consistent with a July 1961 birth date. EG. this article says "Arobieke, 54, of Devonshire Road, Liverpool, also complained that…" This is <ref name="DailyPost_2015-10-01"> already used in the article. @Unbuttered Parsnip, The duke juice, Philip Trueman, NeilN, StevenJ81, and Kethrus II: you've contributed to this article recently - your thoughts, please?
The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move reviewafter discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Moved. Closing early because this is linked on the main page and, as a recent death, there are BLP issues at play with strong suggestions this is a racist name. There's a 9:6 majority in support of the move so that's pretty much consensus and arguably it should never have been at the "Purple Ali" name anyway as the move was made by a banned sock. It seems like there's an absence of strong evidence that it really is his common name too, with most sources using his actual name even if they also call him the Purple Aki name. Since this hasn't run the full seven days, no prejudice against a fresh RM with more evidence after the main page is run is over and when the subject is no longer covered by BLP but for now I think BLP concerns override the procedural issue of closing the RM after two days. — Amakuru (talk) 06:48, 31 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support - I'm not convinced that there's a good argument for using anything but the man's actual name for the title of this page. WP:COMMONNAME for people doesn't automatically override the subject's own usage, for example. GenevieveDEon (talk) 09:46, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support No evidence of COMMONNAME, indeed the majority of the sources (and pretty much all of the quality ones) in the article use his full name. And frankly, even it was COMMONNAME, aren't we better than that? Black Kite (talk)11:39, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, this is definitely a case of WP:COMMONNAME. I don't think many people who know of him as "Purple Aki" even know his real name. Nobody really knows the origins of the nickname, and the idea that it's racially charged is, frankly, speculation on the part of that BBC article. It's by far the primary name people know him by. Hell, the BBC themselves even used the nickname in the title of their documentary about him. You'll also notice that many of the sources in the article use the nickname in the headline, because again, they acknowledge that it is simply the name people are more familiar with for him. 80.189.57.150 (talk) 14:36, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support The theory behind our policies on BLPs is about dignity, and I think we could do better than using this weirdly racist nickname in this already overly long and lurid article. Parabolist (talk) 17:35, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - It may better to use his actual name in some cases ands them have it in the biography also known as Purple Aki for example. His nickname is not in anyway shape or form a racist nickname rather that of some old origin in liverpool. there is also the case that hes basically known as purple aki and nothing else by many people. Metalhead11000 (talk) 20:16, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support. I don't actually see evidence that Purple Aki is the COMMONNAME. Almost all of the sources in the article refer to him as Akinwale Arobieke in the headline or lede and throughout the body of the article. Several of them don't mention the nickname at all. The 2006 BBC source says that he's widely known by the nickname in Liverpool, but that doesn't mean that's the name that is most commonly used "as determined by its prevalence in a significant majority of independent, reliable, English-language sources" (per WP:COMMONNAME). MidnightAlarm (talk) 22:42, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support per the Press Complaints Commission. Note that the Liverpool Echo article reporting his death does not contain the word "purple". And the redirect will remain in place. The nickname would be fine in a section on Arobieke as the origin of the urban legend / meme (if the article had one: it did at one point? it was deleted for WP:RS issues?), but the article as it stands is basically a BLP. Moscow Mule (talk) 23:19, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Why are we using a name that isn't his real name, and that has been called a racist nickname? We should use his actual name, which is used in most of the credible sources, anyway, and which is more accurate and more neutral.
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According to this article, it was because A.A. had been stalking and harassing him (in the usual way, the muscles and squats thing) and allegedly even threatened him. This should be clarified, otherwise it looks like inexplicable behaviour on Kelly's part. The same article mentions a case where he went to the house of a woman and threatened her because she had told him to leave her brother alone. 62.73.72.101 (talk) 10:57, 31 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Done Added reference to prior harassment of Kelly. Moscow Mule (talk) 13:39, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
Not done: no evidence that the linked image in actually PD, please add proof of license to the Commons page for it. IsCat (talk) 01:21, 28 December 2025 (UTC)
